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I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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Post by tankenmate »

thesmallestcat wrote: post #29
dahart wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"seven years later, it’s still working." Seems like tolerance isn't really an actual problem here. Are you suggesting these parents have some course of action to cure their child's problems? The child could relapse, but I don't understand what point you're trying to make.

That's fair. While it's possible that changes as the child becomes a man will nullify the medicine, maybe this is a permanent fix. But it's clear that the parents are forced to overmedicate for fear that the child will act out when "coming down." What rubs me the wrong way about this article is that it's written in such a way that any parent whose kid has a problem with tantrums might think, "hm, what if I just drugg…

Apart from the fact that medicinal marijuana requires a prescription; so this would require a documented medical diagnosis from a qualified professional at the least.

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Post by EliRivers »

hasenj wrote: post #38
patrickaljord wrote: post #3

The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 with millions of deaths, millions in prisons, and trillions of dollars and human resources wasted, mostly affecting the poor and minorities everywhere. This needs to stop. Sadly, it looks like it will go on for a few more decades.

Really? I have a very deep suspicion that drugs destroy society by making a majority of people lethargic and unmotivated to do anything in real life. A case could be made for exceptions here and there (like the child in this article) but I don't think it works so well in society.

I understand the evidence indicates otherwise. Particularly the evidence from nations states or regions therein that have legalised various drugs.

Do you have any evidence to support your "deep suspicion"?

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Post by DanBC »

Mildly disturbed that she medicates him against his knowledge with something that we think may be harmful for young brains (although we don't know, because drug laws make research impossible).

We excuse this because she's in a desperate situation and there's a lack of support. But other people in her situation resort to more harmful forms of quackery.

The answer shouldn't be "quackery is fine so long as it doesn't result in terrible harm", but "we as a society fail people with autism and learning disability, and we need to do better".

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Post by geofft »

hasenj wrote: post #38
patrickaljord wrote: post #3

The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 with millions of deaths, millions in prisons, and trillions of dollars and human resources wasted, mostly affecting the poor and minorities everywhere. This needs to stop. Sadly, it looks like it will go on for a few more decades.

Really? I have a very deep suspicion that drugs destroy society by making a majority of people lethargic and unmotivated to do anything in real life. A case could be made for exceptions here and there (like the child in this article) but I don't think it works so well in society.

It's certainly possible for drugs to destroy society and the war on drugs to destroy society. The two aren't mutually exclusive, and in fact they're often correlated in the more conventional type of wars: saying that the bombing of Dresden was bad for Dresden doesn't imply that Nazi rule was good for it, nor does saying that Nazi rule was bad imply that the bombing was good for the city.

This is why declaring war is traditionally a last-resort approach, appropriate only when you believe the inevitable evils of waging war are worth enduring to eliminate the great evil you're facing. If the evil you're facing is not that great, war is not the right tool.

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Post by djmobley »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #54
patrickaljord wrote: post #3

The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 with millions of deaths, millions in prisons, and trillions of dollars and human resources wasted, mostly affecting the poor and minorities everywhere. This needs to stop. Sadly, it looks like it will go on for a few more decades.

I call hyperbole. Millions of deaths? Do you mean by overdose? Are those the fault of resisting the spread of drugs?

Presumably OP means deaths linked to the production, distribution, and sale of illegal drugs.

Think Mexican drug cartels, gang wars over drug selling operations, etc.

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Post by intended »

ggame wrote: post #45
guard-of-terra wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's funniest, USA created War on Drugs to tackle their internal purposes, but the rest of the world adopted it anyway (including the wrong side of Iron Curtain)

America intentionally exported the War on Drugs. It would sanction and threaten to invade those who didn't want to join. Which is the height of hypocrisy given the CIAs involvement in facilitating the drug trade. A good example is what happened with Noriega in Panama. A cynical person may think that that the modern war on drugs is intended to increase profits for the CIA for things that they couldn't ask the tax paye…

Cannabis played (plays) a part in Hindu rituals/festivals - Bhaang in holi comes to mind.

Guess which country has rules to bend to the war on terror?

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Post by cooper12 »

hasenj wrote: post #38
patrickaljord wrote: post #3

The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 with millions of deaths, millions in prisons, and trillions of dollars and human resources wasted, mostly affecting the poor and minorities everywhere. This needs to stop. Sadly, it looks like it will go on for a few more decades.

Really? I have a very deep suspicion that drugs destroy society by making a majority of people lethargic and unmotivated to do anything in real life. A case could be made for exceptions here and there (like the child in this article) but I don't think it works so well in society.

By your logic, the states that have legalized recreational marijuana should all be failing right now. Oh and if you were specifically talking about all drugs, Portugal decriminalized possession in 2001 and it was a staggering success. (https://www.thefix.com/content/decrim-nation-portugal-ten-ye...)

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Post by samirillian »

leakybit wrote: post #31
hubb wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is a false equivalency for two reasons: marijuana is not physically addictive, and THC doesn't have near the same capability to incapacitate people that heroin does.

Which is why the only drug I do is meth, since it's not physically addictive and actually makes me function better.

I love all these fallacious arguments by analogy. Just name the side effect of weed that you think is problematic, don't try to use some elaborate bait and switch to equivocate.

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Post by jimnotgym »

legulere wrote: post #41

I think this article is irresponsible. Cannabis might cause permanent damage to cognitive functions in the developing brain: http://www.apa.org/monitor/2015/11/marijuana-brain.aspx

Fits of rage 300 times a day, and constant pain might cause permanent damage to cognitive functions in the developing brain.

Conventional medicine has no treatment available. What would you do?

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Post by chillwaves »

hasenj wrote: post #38
patrickaljord wrote: post #3

The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 with millions of deaths, millions in prisons, and trillions of dollars and human resources wasted, mostly affecting the poor and minorities everywhere. This needs to stop. Sadly, it looks like it will go on for a few more decades.

Really? I have a very deep suspicion that drugs destroy society by making a majority of people lethargic and unmotivated to do anything in real life. A case could be made for exceptions here and there (like the child in this article) but I don't think it works so well in society.

> Almost 70 percent of Americans take at least one prescription drug, and more than half take two, according to researchers at the Mayo Clinic and Olmsted Medical Center.

https://www.drugwatch.com/2015/07/29/drug-abuse-in-america/

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