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Re: Future Economy (2010) [video]

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Post by ZenoArrow » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 6:23 PM UTC

rublev wrote: post #16

ZenoArrow wrote: post #10

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How does moving to a big house improve you?

How doesn't it? I'm living in an apartment right now bordering a psycho neighbour and it's mentally ruining me. I can only dream of having my own quiet space again. Simply having the mental freedom to think about what you want, not 'juggling' thoughts about managing your lifestyle around other peoples lives. If you are well slept and content, then arguably everything you undertake will be the 'improved' version.

Let's put this another way. I agree that having to deal with negative people is draining. However, does fixing that require a big house? From what I know you don't need a lot of money (by Western standards) to find somewhere else you prefer to live. What's holding you back from living somewhere new (whether that's a new country or somewhere with fewer problems in your current country)?

Re: Future Economy (2010) [video]

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Post by blakeyrat » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 6:26 PM UTC

ZenoArrow wrote: post #60

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It would certainly give me a much quieter environment to work in, with a far better view. Also would do a ton to help me attract a girlfriend. But you're right, it's not all the way there yet: I also need to hire someone to do the basic maintenance and cleaning. Or perhaps a robot. But either option takes money .

Money is a sedative. It improves life to a certain point, but past that point it's less effective. There's also the effects that chasing wealth has on your psyche, where accumulation of wealth requires fiscal discipline, and the more money you get the more reluctant you become to spend it, and you're driven towards the accumulation of even more wealth. Perhaps you don't believe me. If so, how do you think the cultura…

Well then why don't you give me all of yours. Imagine the good I'd be doing you.

Re: Future Economy (2010) [video]

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Post by UK-AL » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 7:01 PM UTC

jjaredsimpson wrote: post #54

UK-AL wrote: post #34

The money is just tool to achieve your goals. You don't need to get rid of it to acheive your personal goals.

Money isn't a tool. Tool have uses and multiply productivity of their users. Money is, among other things, a representative of value.

Money does have multiple uses and multiplies productivity if correctly used

Re: Future Economy (2010) [video]

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Post by ZenoArrow » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 7:07 PM UTC

blakeyrat wrote: post #62

ZenoArrow wrote: post #60

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Money is a sedative. It improves life to a certain point, but past that point it's less effective. There's also the effects that chasing wealth has on your psyche, where accumulation of wealth requires fiscal discipline, and the more money you get the more reluctant you become to spend it, and you're driven towards the accumulation of even more wealth. Perhaps you don't believe me. If so, how do you think the cultura…

Well then why don't you give me all of yours. Imagine the good I'd be doing you.

Learn to read. I said it helps up to a certain point, I'm not rich enough to have a home of my own. Plus, I do occasionally give away money when to help those I wish to.

Re: Future Economy (2010) [video]

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Post by hacker_9 » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 11:15 PM UTC

stenecdote wrote: post #56

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I don't think anyone is saying you suddenly don't need money, because in our current society you absolutely do. But it is possible to imagine one without it, once we get over a certain threshold of technology.

Off-topic: @hacker_9 just saw one of your recent comments ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13267106 ) and you seem to be thinking along similar lines to me and akkartik ( https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=akkartik ). You can read more about our work here ( http://akkartik.name/about ). Would love to hear any thoughts you have!

Looks interesting, good luck with it. I don't have anything much concrete to add to what I last said, but I do think visual programming is still an unexplored space. I feel like the flowchart stuff is maybe thinking about the problem the wrong way round, putting code in nicely coloured boxes seems a bit redundant.