The Russians hacked the election in the same way that the Ashley Madison hackers hacked all those marriages.
Obama Strikes Back at Russia for Election Hacking
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Re: Obama Strikes Back at Russia for Election Hacking
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ever since the election, the media has been trying to confuse people about Russia's "hacking", and keep using the phrase "hacked the election", so frequently and rigorously that it's obviously deliberate. And it worked: 50% of Democrats believe Russia hacked the election results (that's right, the results themselves, not just the DNC) according to the latest YouGov poll. The media is no longer proving itself worthy o…
Here you go[0]... That's not "50% believe." 35% thinking "Probably true" sounds to me like they believe it's possible. A nearly equal percent think it's "Probably not true" (32%) [0] http://hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/rh.jpg
I assure you almost none of these answers are the result of the New York Times lacking a bit of precision their headlines.
Re: Obama Strikes Back at Russia for Election Hacking
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ever since the election, the media has been trying to confuse people about Russia's "hacking", and keep using the phrase "hacked the election", so frequently and rigorously that it's obviously deliberate. And it worked: 50% of Democrats believe Russia hacked the election results (that's right, the results themselves, not just the DNC) according to the latest YouGov poll. The media is no longer proving itself worthy o…
First, we should all probably ignore YouGov, as it has fairly low credibility. Second, it's alarming to watch people on YCombinator not acknowledge that almost always, the best way to hack a system is social engineering. And if you combine actual hacking of people at the top of a political party, with social engineering, it's really not a stretch to call that "election hacking." Sure, it's a little bit sensationalist…
Why does YouGov have low credibility? My sense is the opposite: they were the only polling company to get accurate results in important recent votes.
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#64True or not, the idea that Russia could have hacked the US elections is pretty wild, and the way this is nonchalantly discussed, and met with the mild diplomatic gesture of dismissing some diplomats is a little surprising to me.
Is it because I have grown up during the end of the cold war? But what would Nixon or Reagan have done in this situation?
Messing with a country's political system like that sounds extremely hostile to me and warrants massive investigations, reorganizations and review of the entire voting process to restore trust.
Thoughts?
Re: Obama Strikes Back at Russia for Election Hacking
#65The closer we come to the end of the Obama Administration, the more disappointed I have become (and this after having voted for him twice).
Are you upset that he is accusing Russia of cyberattacks, or that he's doing something about it?
The OPM hacks did far more damage to the country, but Obama's reaction was - nothing. It was only when some elites of his own party got some egg on their face that he reacted.
Re: Obama Strikes Back at Russia for Election Hacking
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, it was apparently convincing enough for the former DNC chair to lose her job, and for the subsequent DNC chair to be fired from her position at CNN. If you choose to ignore what happened, then that's your own perogative.
First, the former DNC chairwoman was going to lose her job anyway. The DNC chair position alternates every four years. She was "fired" early to make peace with Sanders, who believed (correctly) that DWS favored Clinton. It was a move to give unity to the party, and possibly to get Sanders endorsement. It's hard to say for certain what would have happened if they hadn't. Donna Brazile forwarded a single question to Po…
Do you believe the DNC tried to slow down the momentum of Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primaries?
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#67So 35 Russian diplomats have been given 72 hours to leave the country, and 2 of their properties will be closed - one in DC and the other in San Francisco. Well, if history is any guide, expect Russia to return the favor. Question is, how long will they wait before announcing that 35 American diplomats have 72 hours to leave Russia?
Why would americans bother with such big diplomatic presence in Russia to begin with?
Because the basis for any conflict resolution is dialogue ?
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#68Democrats want a war with Russia, and they just might get it.
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#69So is this how US politics will be from now on? Every president spends their lame duck period doing everything possible to sabotage the next guy (if they're the other party)? I seem to recall GWB having a bit more decorum than Obama here but maybe I'm wrong. Is the political climate really more poisonous than ever or does it just seem that way?
http://theduran.com/breaking-obama-imposes-sanctions-russia-...
"Barack Obama announces more sanctions against Russia, citing alleged Russian hacking during US election. However though the sanctions will annoy the Russians, they will not seriously affect them. Their true purpose is to create further embarrassment for Donald Trump by insinuating that he owes the Russians the Presidency."
Re: Obama Strikes Back at Russia for Election Hacking
#70Maybe I'm splitting hairs here, but it does bother anyone that the NYT title calls it "election hacking"? To me that sort of slyly suggests that the actual election / voting process was hacked, which as far as I know did not happen. Perhaps "election-related hacking" would be more accurate. I don't mean to say the DNC and other such hacks weren't a big deal, but I worry that people who just read titles are getting th…
Ever since the election, the media has been trying to confuse people about Russia's "hacking", and keep using the phrase "hacked the election", so frequently and rigorously that it's obviously deliberate. And it worked: 50% of Democrats believe Russia hacked the election results (that's right, the results themselves, not just the DNC) according to the latest YouGov poll. The media is no longer proving itself worthy o…
> The media is no longer proving itself worthy of the little respect it has.
FTFY.