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Researchers create gel that regrows tooth enamel (2015)

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Re: Researchers create gel that regrows tooth enamel (2015)

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Post by graeme »

stevebmark wrote: post #59
graeme wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm. Took one course of cipro in early 2010. The year after that was the worst of my life health wise. After that, have steadily improved. I can't say it's cipro related. The stuff that happened was: very bad digestion, chronic left arm pain due to typing in a poor ergonomic position, and a bike accident + broken tooth (this clearly wasn't due to an antibiotic). I did, however, likely acquire MRSA in a wound on my ch…

FQs are some of the most powerful antibiotics in terms of destroying healthy gut bacteria, and likely cause permanent gut flora changes after use. Some of the bacteria it destroys are oxygen sensitive, so they aren't in probiotics because they can't survive long enough to be manufactured into a pill. Muscle problems, especially muscle twitches, are very common among FQ toxicity sufferers. This is suspected nerve dama…

Fair enough. So are there any further treatment indications, e.g. such as a way to get oxygen sensitive bacteria other than a pill? Likely would help my digestion whatever the cause.

A doctor who examined my tinnitus actually suspects it's nerve damage. However, it may well have been due to the bike accident, so it's hard to tell.

No muscle twitches that I'm aware of. More tension.

Re: Researchers create gel that regrows tooth enamel (2015)

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Post by stevebmark »

graeme wrote: post #61
stevebmark wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FQs are some of the most powerful antibiotics in terms of destroying healthy gut bacteria, and likely cause permanent gut flora changes after use. Some of the bacteria it destroys are oxygen sensitive, so they aren't in probiotics because they can't survive long enough to be manufactured into a pill. Muscle problems, especially muscle twitches, are very common among FQ toxicity sufferers. This is suspected nerve dama…

Fair enough. So are there any further treatment indications, e.g. such as a way to get oxygen sensitive bacteria other than a pill? Likely would help my digestion whatever the cause. A doctor who examined my tinnitus actually suspects it's nerve damage. However, it may well have been due to the bike accident, so it's hard to tell. No muscle twitches that I'm aware of. More tension.

Yes. A DIY home fecal transplant.

Re: Researchers create gel that regrows tooth enamel (2015)

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Post by wojcech »

withdavidli wrote: post #50
fourstar wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can thank the ADA for that. Novamin is a bioglass that is fortified in Sensodyne, which coats the enamel (a fluoride rival, but better), and was sold to GSK. After that, it suddenly disappeared from shelves in the US. You can still buy it online (it ships mainly from Europe), but not in the stores. It's all one big racket.

I used to watch Shark Tank a lot, and they talk about this with patented products. That a big company will buy out a better solution just to shelf it because the current solution is more profitable. As a person that just spent $10k on oral care the past year this makes me incredibly sad and angry. Gov't is already so cheap that we (US) have fluoride in our water, that was planned to be cheap dental care =(. I underst…

> Gov't is already so cheap that we (US) have fluoride in our water, that was planned to be cheap dental care =(.

To understand you correctly, do you think the fluoride is a bad thing? IIRC fluoridated water is amongst the best bang for the buck you can do for healthy teeth, with no downside that I'm aware of (?)

Re: Researchers create gel that regrows tooth enamel (2015)

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Post by saurik »

wojcech wrote: post #64
withdavidli wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to watch Shark Tank a lot, and they talk about this with patented products. That a big company will buy out a better solution just to shelf it because the current solution is more profitable. As a person that just spent $10k on oral care the past year this makes me incredibly sad and angry. Gov't is already so cheap that we (US) have fluoride in our water, that was planned to be cheap dental care =(. I underst…

> Gov't is already so cheap that we (US) have fluoride in our water, that was planned to be cheap dental care =(. To understand you correctly, do you think the fluoride is a bad thing? IIRC fluoridated water is amongst the best bang for the buck you can do for healthy teeth, with no downside that I'm aware of (?)

I was under the impression that no one has ever shown that drinking fluoride does much for your teeth: it doesn't have a systemic effect; if you soak your teeth in concentrated fluoride that helps (though we might be overdoing it now in the US for children: tons of cases of teeth with floirinosis; I have some friends who clearly have this problem... but for adults it is great), but the momentary contact of the extremely small concentration of flouride in drinking water can only do harm as it ends up in other parts of your body... and we also know it does harm, the only question is whether there is enough in your water for the harm to be noticeable.

Re: Researchers create gel that regrows tooth enamel (2015)

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Post by fractallyte »

stephanheijl wrote: post #13

Is it just me, or does it feel like we've been hearing about advances in dental treatment for decades, without them actually having any effect on the practice? From my personal experience as someone living in the Netherlands, where standards of health care are pretty high, I would expect these advancements to make at least _some_ impact on the field. Instead my (admittedly anecdotal) experience as a patient has been…

Having worked at a dental implant startup in Vienna (http://www.bioimplant.at/), I've experienced first-hand the obstacles that prevent new treatments and technology from reaching the patient.

In summary: here is an 'immediate' dental implant requiring no drilling or bone augmentation (ie. surgery-free), that can be placed in minutes, and - once healed in - has no risk of future infection (peri-implantitis). Clinically proven over 10 years. Revolutionary, right?

No top-end journal is willing to publish papers on this topic. (We surmise that the implant industry profits too much from existing treatments.) We've approached several popular science magazines with article proposals; declined. Reached out to journalists, no response.

The only real publicity so far has been through word-of-mouth and SEO. It's a baffling (and somewhat disgraceful) situation. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of patients suffering needlessly every year, and a solution exists - but where is the bridge that can connect them?

Re: Researchers create gel that regrows tooth enamel (2015)

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Post by threatofrain »

fractallyte wrote: post #66
stephanheijl wrote: post #13

Is it just me, or does it feel like we've been hearing about advances in dental treatment for decades, without them actually having any effect on the practice? From my personal experience as someone living in the Netherlands, where standards of health care are pretty high, I would expect these advancements to make at least _some_ impact on the field. Instead my (admittedly anecdotal) experience as a patient has been…

Having worked at a dental implant startup in Vienna ( http://www.bioimplant.at/ ), I've experienced first-hand the obstacles that prevent new treatments and technology from reaching the patient. In summary: here is an 'immediate' dental implant requiring no drilling or bone augmentation (ie. surgery-free), that can be placed in minutes, and - once healed in - has no risk of future infection (peri-implantitis). Clinic…

For what reasons were top-end journals unwilling to publish on even just the topic, and for what reasons were researchers completely ignoring communication attempts?

Re: Researchers create gel that regrows tooth enamel (2015)

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Post by JPLeRouzic »

fractallyte wrote: post #66
stephanheijl wrote: post #13

Is it just me, or does it feel like we've been hearing about advances in dental treatment for decades, without them actually having any effect on the practice? From my personal experience as someone living in the Netherlands, where standards of health care are pretty high, I would expect these advancements to make at least _some_ impact on the field. Instead my (admittedly anecdotal) experience as a patient has been…

Having worked at a dental implant startup in Vienna ( http://www.bioimplant.at/ ), I've experienced first-hand the obstacles that prevent new treatments and technology from reaching the patient. In summary: here is an 'immediate' dental implant requiring no drilling or bone augmentation (ie. surgery-free), that can be placed in minutes, and - once healed in - has no risk of future infection (peri-implantitis). Clinic…

If I was in your boots I would talk to Health insurance companies. They fight hard to reduce health costs (and increase their own revenues). They also know how to lobby, which is certainly mandatory in the health industry.

Some of them have their own clinics and can even fund research.

For example in France: https://www.lamutuellegenerale.fr/qui-sommes-nous/fondation/...

Re: Researchers create gel that regrows tooth enamel (2015)

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Post by edem »

fractallyte wrote: post #66
stephanheijl wrote: post #13

Is it just me, or does it feel like we've been hearing about advances in dental treatment for decades, without them actually having any effect on the practice? From my personal experience as someone living in the Netherlands, where standards of health care are pretty high, I would expect these advancements to make at least _some_ impact on the field. Instead my (admittedly anecdotal) experience as a patient has been…

Having worked at a dental implant startup in Vienna ( http://www.bioimplant.at/ ), I've experienced first-hand the obstacles that prevent new treatments and technology from reaching the patient. In summary: here is an 'immediate' dental implant requiring no drilling or bone augmentation (ie. surgery-free), that can be placed in minutes, and - once healed in - has no risk of future infection (peri-implantitis). Clinic…

And how can you be contacted and your revolutionary methods used?

Re: Researchers create gel that regrows tooth enamel (2015)

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Post by rihegher »

fractallyte wrote: post #66
stephanheijl wrote: post #13

Is it just me, or does it feel like we've been hearing about advances in dental treatment for decades, without them actually having any effect on the practice? From my personal experience as someone living in the Netherlands, where standards of health care are pretty high, I would expect these advancements to make at least _some_ impact on the field. Instead my (admittedly anecdotal) experience as a patient has been…

Having worked at a dental implant startup in Vienna ( http://www.bioimplant.at/ ), I've experienced first-hand the obstacles that prevent new treatments and technology from reaching the patient. In summary: here is an 'immediate' dental implant requiring no drilling or bone augmentation (ie. surgery-free), that can be placed in minutes, and - once healed in - has no risk of future infection (peri-implantitis). Clinic…

I have absolutely no knowledge about this but my doctor told me that ceramic implant were not yet ready to replace titanium ones
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