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Why Everyone is Afraid of Apple

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Re: Why Everyone is Afraid of Apple

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Apple is fundamentally a different kind of company than almost all other software or hardware companies. The prospect of J. Average Computer Company competing against J. Other Average Computer Company is straightforward, all that it takes to win against them is to keep doing what you're doing, only better, or more. The prospect of competing against Apple might be a bit more daunting, because potential it requires com…

Apple has been fairly dominant in the mp3 player business for quite some time now...

Re: Why Everyone is Afraid of Apple

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Can you provide other examples where a gadget site pays money to a 3rd party who happens to have an unreleased development model of a future product? I can't think of any...

Don't be disingenuous. The exchange of money here is the least of the transgressions. I would think that someone sending Gizmodo a 'lost' iPhone prototype without the exchange of money would have gotten them into hot water too if they didn't try to return it first (before publishing the internals). In the past, most leaks have been information (specs,photos,etc) not the actual device.

It's called fencing.

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I'd love to see Apple do a watch, or a clip-on to a watch that enabled financial transactions as a substitute for cash. It'd probably need some type of rfid, and the merchant some type of biometric, otherwise if someone saw the watch, they might be tempted to steal.

Why wait for Apple to do it? A friend of mine is doing this, but on a card, not a watch: They'll be going live within the next couple of months, keep an eye out for something called the real X card.

Trust, reliability, scale, innovation, reach, longevity, security, efficiency: that's what will separate the men from the boys!

Re: Why Everyone is Afraid of Apple

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Don't be disingenuous. The exchange of money here is the least of the transgressions. I would think that someone sending Gizmodo a 'lost' iPhone prototype without the exchange of money would have gotten them into hot water too if they didn't try to return it first (before publishing the internals). In the past, most leaks have been information (specs,photos,etc) not the actual device.

It's called fencing.

An Olympic sport, no less!

Re: Why Everyone is Afraid of Apple

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Right. But the bit where they don't give it to Apple immediately makes it theft. Which is worse, buying stolen property, or stealing property? If they couldn't be accused of the former, they would be accused of the latter. You seem to forget the very basis on which this was declared buying stolen property: the theft itself. The theft itself would have occurred no matter whether it was bought or not, and both parties…

Since when is finding something in a bar "theft"? There was a good article about this topic somewhere, about where journalists used to have balls, and the corporate victims were unhappy, but never before did they call the police and bust the door down. Apple lost a phone. And the police busted someone's door down. I've read many stories of lost phones where the original owner, via software, has given the exact addres…

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/cacode/PEN/3/1/13/5/s485

"One who finds lost property under circumstances which give him knowledge of or means of inquiry as to the true owner, and who appropriates such property to his own use, or to the use of another person not entitled thereto, without first making reasonable and just efforts to find the owner and to restore the property to him, is guilty of theft."

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Also relevant: http://jballer.tumblr.com/post/540967372/gizmodos-trade-secr...

Re: Why Everyone is Afraid of Apple

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Gotta post this somewhere to get it off my chest, so might as well be here - ...as someone who was using OS9 when Apple had a death watch on it there's a certain amount of schadenfreude, mixed with wonder, at this situation of Apple as the 800lb gorilla. I get a giant kick out of the whole thing. :-) That is all.

I'd get a kick out of Apple if it were showing microsoft how you can be successful without pulling all kinds of (dirty) tricks. Unfortunately it looks like they are at least as bad as microsoft ever was and that the gospel according to Jobs is not that far removed from the gospel according to Gates. The one thing they've got going for them is that stuff appears to look better and works better, otherwise the new boss…

stuff appears to look better and works better

Gotta say, this makes a big difference!

Re: Why Everyone is Afraid of Apple

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I find it's rather that they take care of every detail. I refuse to buy an iPhone but I'm still not satisfied with the state of Android phones. There's the phones with the great cameras (but are underpowered). There's the phones with the great cpus (but wasted because of low ram) There's the phones with the good extra UI (wasted because they're underpowered) There's the good middle ground handicapped by a really old…

That's starting to change. The Nexus One is very nice, the Droid Incredible (which is basically the same thing with a better camera) is even better, HTC Sense is a very nice interface, and in June, Sprint's going to get the Evo, which is basically an Incredible with an even better camera (takes 720p video), a front-facing camera, 4G, a 4.3" screen, and the ability to act as a wifi router.

And one day someone outside of the Apple campus is going to wake up and realize that a big bag of features is no longer enough; you have to combine them all into a seamless environment so that people[1] can actually take advantage of the cute bits of electronics you stuff into ever smaller packages.

[1] By "people" I mean the 99.999% of the world who do not bother to read instruction manuals, would never use a command-line interface, and once had vcrs whose clocks always read 12:00...

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That's starting to change. The Nexus One is very nice, the Droid Incredible (which is basically the same thing with a better camera) is even better, HTC Sense is a very nice interface, and in June, Sprint's going to get the Evo, which is basically an Incredible with an even better camera (takes 720p video), a front-facing camera, 4G, a 4.3" screen, and the ability to act as a wifi router.

And one day someone outside of the Apple campus is going to wake up and realize that a big bag of features is no longer enough; you have to combine them all into a seamless environment so that people[1] can actually take advantage of the cute bits of electronics you stuff into ever smaller packages. [1] By "people" I mean the 99.999% of the world who do not bother to read instruction manuals, would never use a comman…

With an Android phone you don't even need a PC (or Mac), unlike Apple's stuff.

Re: Why Everyone is Afraid of Apple

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I think it's very challenging for Apple. Apple is making a skyrocketing revenue because iPad and iPhone sales has boomed. But iPad won't sell for 300K piece everyday, that only happened the first day... actually it can sell! Yes, but there is an interesting point (so that it sells at such high rate): Apple "must" dominate the market. For the iPhone, the competition is now fierce: Android, BlackBerry, Palm, Windows mo…

After using the Mac for the first time ( bought it just for iPhone development ) I was impressed . Forget iPhone and iPad , what if Mac becomes the standard. Read 'Mac is back' by Paul Graham. Many of my friends who do not do any programming bought Mac recently. Windows PC now feels like a waste of time to me. Maybe the masses will catch up later.

> what if Mac becomes the standard

The only way that can happen is if OS X can be licensed to third-party computer manufacturers.

Most computer users just browse the net or read/write documents and spreadsheets. Why would they want an overpriced Mac for doing that?

That's partly the reason why I once thought that Linux will overtake the market, because of its price. But apparently there are other forces that keep Windows dominating, like familiarity and compatibility with existing apps (your free or shiny OS doesn't mean shit if I can't run my apps on it).

> 'Mac is back' by Paul Graham

I'm pretty sure Paul Graham got disappointing with Apple by now. Read "Apple's mistake".

Why in the world would you substitute a control freak for another (even worse in some cases) control freak?

Re: Why Everyone is Afraid of Apple

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A lot depends on iAds.

That could be a game changer, though I don't see the profit from iAds matching that of mac/iPhone/iPad/app sales.

Ugh, are we going to see iAds in addition to Google ads while browsing the web?

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