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Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

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Post by omegaworks »

VLM wrote: post #28
balabaster wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but he's a bit of a paradox in this respect because he clearly values his own opinion over everyone else. Given some of the positions he's filled, with some of the personalities he's chosen, to pick a team that's clearly liberal and forward thinking team in this aspect vs. (anecdotally, I haven't read the actual evidence supporting this) the very staunch flat earth, climate denial, intelligent design type conser…

He's an old real estate hand, they're used to more diversity than will ever be found in SV/Tech or stereotypical business in general. Real estate is the art of compromise between extremely diverse people/groups. I'd say there's probably more diversity working in real estate than most any other large industry. Today you're meeting with some commie union leader, tomorrow a bank prez, next week you're buying off some en…

Good luck erasing this racist's sordid legacy.

http://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/495955920/donald-trump-plagued...

But by all means, keep trying. Demonstrate exactly how nuanced your view is.

Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

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Post by mistermann »

gdulli wrote: post #33
edblarney wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"in this respect because he clearly values his own opinion over everyone else." Musk or Trump? :) Musk might be liberal on some kind of social issues, but he's more of a libertarian than anything, he's not remotely some kind of 'bernie' guy. Musk told his wife, as they were having their 'first dance at the wedding' - that 'he's the alpha' in the relationship. Does that sound progressive? Or how about dumping his wife…

> Musk told his wife, as they were having their 'first dance at the wedding' - that 'he's the alpha' in the relationship. Oh god if that happened... is it possible to die from cringing?

It's a smarter strategy than keeping quiet and assuming she is ok with it.

Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

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Post by sigmar »

brightball wrote: post #39
zzzeek wrote: post #19

Jeff Bezos is also on this "advisory team" and he's close to a mortal enemy of Trump. I predict this is no more than a sunshine squad for PR reasons. Trump met with Al Gore for many hours as well, then nominated the most ardent climate change denier as head of the EPA the next day. As long as that kind of thing doesn't change (e.g. Trump literally comes out and says, "OK, I was wrong, I finally believe in climate cha…

While I'm not a Trump fan and don't disagree with a ton of what you say here, people need to stop with this intelligence briefings stuff. He said he doesn't need to dedicate time to have people tell him the exact same thing everyday, but to let him know when things change. If anything, that's an efficiency gain that a site full of programmers and avid "meetings are the devil" folks should appreciate. Every time that…

If Trump was too busy for briefings, it wouldn't be a big deal. But the "I don't want to hear the same thing every day" is likely very telling of how little he cares about details. Details are important and U.S. national security is at risk if the President doesn't want to know the nuances of current events.

Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

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Post by sboselli »

lj3 wrote: post #54
beat wrote: post #29

I remember seeing a bunch of "Elon Musk for president!" among certain social groups. And I was thinking that's like "He's my favorite musician! I want him removing my appendix!" But that said, this is just noise anyway. It's not like these guys, however much we like them, will have any say in policy.

That reminds me of a Dylan Moran joke: "Arnold Schwarzenegger is the governor of California. There's a perfectly ordinary English sentence. How did that happen!? ... He went over to the heavy thing, and lifted it, and put it back down and didn't move it anywhere. And then he did it again, hundreds of times, and he said to people who stopped to observe this aberrant behaviour, "Look how good I am at lifting the heavy…

This is nonsense.

Are you or anyone you know a completely one-dimensional person? Do you have the capacity to learn just one (and no more) topic?

Stop acting like people can't learn or have multiple passions/knowledge domains.

Please, there's absolutely nothing special or unattainable about politicians. If anything, they are the people who are most trained, set in their ways and corrupted in the most corrupted system humanity has known.

I welcome any and all outsiders.

Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

#65

Post by lj3 »

sboselli wrote: post #64
lj3 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That reminds me of a Dylan Moran joke: "Arnold Schwarzenegger is the governor of California. There's a perfectly ordinary English sentence. How did that happen!? ... He went over to the heavy thing, and lifted it, and put it back down and didn't move it anywhere. And then he did it again, hundreds of times, and he said to people who stopped to observe this aberrant behaviour, "Look how good I am at lifting the heavy…

This is nonsense. Are you or anyone you know a completely one-dimensional person? Do you have the capacity to learn just one (and no more) topic? Stop acting like people can't learn or have multiple passions/knowledge domains. Please, there's absolutely nothing special or unattainable about politicians. If anything, they are the people who are most trained, set in their ways and corrupted in the most corrupted system…

It's a joke. Lighten up.

Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

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Post by username3 »

balabaster wrote: post #14
danvasquez29 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It honestly fits his MO perfectly I think. He very much values enterprise leadership over political experience.

Yes, but he's a bit of a paradox in this respect because he clearly values his own opinion over everyone else. Given some of the positions he's filled, with some of the personalities he's chosen, to pick a team that's clearly liberal and forward thinking team in this aspect vs. (anecdotally, I haven't read the actual evidence supporting this) the very staunch flat earth, climate denial, intelligent design type conser…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

The myth of the Flat Earth is the modern misconception that the prevailing cosmological view during the Middle Ages saw the Earth as flat, instead of spherical.[1][2] During the early Middle Ages, virtually all scholars maintained the spherical viewpoint first expressed by the Ancient Greeks. By the 14th century, belief in a flat earth among the educated was essentially dead. Flat-Earth models were in fact held at earlier (pre-medieval) times, before the spherical model became commonly accepted in Hellenistic astronomy.[3]

Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

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Post by thwarted »

edblarney wrote: post #26
Mwatson10 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious how things changed? Advising someone doesn't mean you have to agree with them. In fact wouldn't you want to advise someone you don't agree with? Try and direct them more towards your opinions?

"I'm curious how things changed?" It would be one thing to prefer one candidate over the other. But Musk's remarks are very strong. Basically: "This man is not qualified for the job" is a very string rebuke. And then to go on his panel? It's a little hypocritical. Trump knows that these guys value their careers more than their credibility, and he's making Elon Musk, Mitt Romney etc. 'kiss the ring' and 'eat their own…

Trump knows that these guys value their careers more than their credibility, and he's making Elon Musk, Mitt Romney etc. 'kiss the ring' and 'eat their own words'.

You really think the likes of Musk and Bezos can't sleep at night because of risk to their careers? These guys don't worry about credibility because they make their own credibility. This is more of a position of "I'm a captain of industry, if the President wants to call me to ask a question, I'll take the call". Doing so is both good business (good for their businesses at least), and is compatible with a position of "this man is not qualified for the job", because "that's why he's got me on his advisory board". If anything, it's a subtle, shrewd move on the part of Musk.

Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

#68

Post by ddw »

sigmar wrote: post #63
brightball wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I'm not a Trump fan and don't disagree with a ton of what you say here, people need to stop with this intelligence briefings stuff. He said he doesn't need to dedicate time to have people tell him the exact same thing everyday, but to let him know when things change. If anything, that's an efficiency gain that a site full of programmers and avid "meetings are the devil" folks should appreciate. Every time that…

If Trump was too busy for briefings, it wouldn't be a big deal. But the "I don't want to hear the same thing every day" is likely very telling of how little he cares about details . Details are important and U.S. national security is at risk if the President doesn't want to know the nuances of current events.

Especially since he has time to meet with Kanye West

Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

#69

Post by ulfw »

micheljones wrote: post #45
tuwtuwtuw wrote: post #42

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I agree, Twitter is more important right now.

The guy puts out a tweet daily while dropping a turd in the morning. Are you really trying to drum this up as something special and resource-hogging?

One a day in the bathroom? uhuh... http://graphics.wsj.com/clinton-trump-twitter/

ONE DAY RECORD: 87 tweets OCT. 18, 2016

AVG. TWEETS PER DAY: 11

Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

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Post by balabaster »

edblarney wrote: post #20
balabaster wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but he's a bit of a paradox in this respect because he clearly values his own opinion over everyone else. Given some of the positions he's filled, with some of the personalities he's chosen, to pick a team that's clearly liberal and forward thinking team in this aspect vs. (anecdotally, I haven't read the actual evidence supporting this) the very staunch flat earth, climate denial, intelligent design type conser…

"in this respect because he clearly values his own opinion over everyone else." Musk or Trump? :) Musk might be liberal on some kind of social issues, but he's more of a libertarian than anything, he's not remotely some kind of 'bernie' guy. Musk told his wife, as they were having their 'first dance at the wedding' - that 'he's the alpha' in the relationship. Does that sound progressive? Or how about dumping his wife…

Apologies for the casual bigotry - I may have spoke flippantly and without carrying out much in the way of in depth first hand research as I should have, but I have heard many reports in this vein, and perhaps it is media BS/propaganda that has proliferated this idea, but if there's any truth to them, then that's a yuuuge gap on one advisory team.
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