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Censored Photographs of FDR’s Japanese Concentration Camps

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Re: Censored Photographs of FDR’s Japanese Concentration Camps

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Post by datalus »

I wonder if there is any connection between the internment camps for Japanese people living in the US & the CO camps. Were they both run by the Selective Service? I know, at least, the CO camps were. The government had really botched handling COs in WWI, to the point that it created a lobby group that when WWII broke out they eventually were able to successfully pass the Burke-Wadsworth Bill with a section that created the Civilian Public Service.

As an aside, WWI conscientious objectors were sent to federal prisons. There they were starved, put into solitary, or physically abused, resulting in some ending up dead. WWII COs were instead sent to camps to do things like farm, fight forest fires, build equipment, etc. in place of service.

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Post by coldpie »

jwcacces wrote: post #60
coldpie wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The next United States Secretary of Defense: "There are some people who think you have to hate them in order to shoot them. I don’t think you do. It’s just business." "You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain’t got no manhood left anyway. So it’s a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually it’s quite fun to fight them,…

Secretary of Defense?

Yes, my mistake.

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Post by turar »

evan_ wrote: post #18
johndunne wrote: post #10

With today's political climate I can't help but think that something like this could happen again.

It kind of already is happening in the US right now in the form of "Family detention centers" intended to detain non-citizens slated for deportation. If Trump's administration seriously plans on "rounding up" millions of people for deportation, they'll have to be lodged somewhere while they are tried (assuming they're granted trials, who knows anymore) and travel arrangements are made. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/…

Or just google "icebox detention" to see what's happening now, not in the 1940s.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/19/us/photos-show-conditions-...

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Post by sverige »

hornbaker wrote: post #20

Most of them were Japanese Americans, born in America. One wonders why German Americans weren't given similar treatment.

Twenty-five years earlier, during WWI, my German ancestors were made to swear allegiance to the United States around a bonfire of their German-language books.

By WWII, my great-uncle, who was one of the younger ones at that bonfire, volunteered at age 40 for the Army Air Corps "because the goddamn Nazis were giving the Germans a bad name." Only time I ever heard him utter a cuss word.

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Post by drdeca »

mgkimsal wrote: post #5

"The very fact that no sabotage has taken place to date is a disturbing and confirming indication that such action will be taken." THAT is disturbing "logic".

It's anti-induction. Anti-induction holds that a thing having happened many times before, all else being equal, is evidence that it will happen again. Anti-induction holds that it having never happened before is evidence that it will happen. Just as induction having generally worked in the past indicates, by induction, that it Wil continue to work, anti-induction having generally not worked in the past "indicates", by anti-induction, that it should begin to work now.

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Post by yummyfajitas »

gnu8 wrote: post #36
teddyh wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“It” in this case seems to refer to the “ban on Muslims entering United States”, not any internment?

It's hard to develop a clear impression of what Donald Trump's position really is from that interview. He wants to sound like a hard liner who will be tough on muslim immigrants, but he also won't allow himself to be cornered into stating that he wants to take any explicitly repressive measure, like a religious ban on immigration, registration, or internment. So he winds up saying nothing at all. The reason he is so…

A quote from the article: "The very fact that no sabotage has taken place to date is a disturbing and confirming indication that such action will be taken."

Seems surprisingly similar to your comment, albeit with a different target.

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Post by [deleted] »

fasteddie31003 wrote: post #44
mgkimsal wrote: post #5

"The very fact that no sabotage has taken place to date is a disturbing and confirming indication that such action will be taken." THAT is disturbing "logic".

There was the Niihau Incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niihau_incident where Hawaiians of Japanese descent helped a crashed Japanese pilot. But then ended up killing the pilot.

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