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Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by Spooky23 »

mcagl wrote: post #38

I didn't know Google Cloud Print before, so I made some research on their site: https://www.google.com/cloudprint/learn/ """ Using Google Cloud Print, you can make your home and work printers available to you and anyone you choose, from the applications you use every day. Google Cloud Print works on your phone, tablet, Chromebook, PC, and any other web-connected device you want to print from. """ Ok, so my printer is…

Opsec matters. If you're printing tax returns or proprietary data with this without some sort of commercial contract, you have a problem.

For a student printing schoolwork, printing my concert tickets from a tablet or a hundred other use cases, yore fine.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by jaclaz »

mcagl wrote: post #38

I didn't know Google Cloud Print before, so I made some research on their site: https://www.google.com/cloudprint/learn/ """ Using Google Cloud Print, you can make your home and work printers available to you and anyone you choose, from the applications you use every day. Google Cloud Print works on your phone, tablet, Chromebook, PC, and any other web-connected device you want to print from. """ Ok, so my printer is…

>So if I'm in my room, on my laptop, at 3 meters from my ubersupercloudenabled printer, I can send my file to it via the web. Securely. Ok.

Conversely, if you are NOT within a few meters of your printer, resetting the machine, managing paper jams, cartridge or toner replacement (i.e. solve the issues that invariably happen every single time you really need to print something, particularly if you are in a hurry) is tricky.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by mcagl »

jaclaz wrote: post #62
mcagl wrote: post #38

I didn't know Google Cloud Print before, so I made some research on their site: https://www.google.com/cloudprint/learn/ """ Using Google Cloud Print, you can make your home and work printers available to you and anyone you choose, from the applications you use every day. Google Cloud Print works on your phone, tablet, Chromebook, PC, and any other web-connected device you want to print from. """ Ok, so my printer is…

>So if I'm in my room, on my laptop, at 3 meters from my ubersupercloudenabled printer, I can send my file to it via the web. Securely. Ok. Conversely, if you are NOT within a few meters of your printer, resetting the machine, managing paper jams, cartridge or toner replacement (i.e. solve the issues that invariably happen every single time you really need to print something, particularly if you are in a hurry) is tr…

Exactly. I don't know why this GCP seems so "irreplaceable" to people using it, given the implications of "sending your files to google just to print them".

I can do the same using a wifi/eth enabled printer and my router plus maybe using a firewall to block the printer to go out on the internet and to be called from outside.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by mcagl »

Spooky23 wrote: post #61
mcagl wrote: post #38

I didn't know Google Cloud Print before, so I made some research on their site: https://www.google.com/cloudprint/learn/ """ Using Google Cloud Print, you can make your home and work printers available to you and anyone you choose, from the applications you use every day. Google Cloud Print works on your phone, tablet, Chromebook, PC, and any other web-connected device you want to print from. """ Ok, so my printer is…

Opsec matters. If you're printing tax returns or proprietary data with this without some sort of commercial contract, you have a problem. For a student printing schoolwork, printing my concert tickets from a tablet or a hundred other use cases, yore fine.

I can print schoolwork and concert tickets from my tablet already using my wifi LAN and my wifi/eth printer (with firewall rules that block traffic to/from the printer to/from the internet), without sending them to google.

I don't care which type of file I print, I simply want to print them privately. As it it's already possible without GCP, I don't catch why people use it.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by icantdrive55 »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #4

How do you manage to engage an internal Google team on an issue? From the story: "We are working with Epson and internal Google teams to root cause this issue" I've seen many help forum threads go unanswered, after days and pages of postings.

Google has too many Chiefs. I don't understand why they don't hire a few remote workers? Not special flowers, with PhD's; just hackers who can answer some questions that are never quite answered of the ole "Help boards"?

Google might do wonderful things in the future, but don't piss off the people who feed you.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by Spooky23 »

mcagl wrote: post #65
Spooky23 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Opsec matters. If you're printing tax returns or proprietary data with this without some sort of commercial contract, you have a problem. For a student printing schoolwork, printing my concert tickets from a tablet or a hundred other use cases, yore fine.

I can print schoolwork and concert tickets from my tablet already using my wifi LAN and my wifi/eth printer (with firewall rules that block traffic to/from the printer to/from the internet), without sending them to google. I don't care which type of file I print, I simply want to print them privately. As it it's already possible without GCP, I don't catch why people use it.

Some people like to print things without being on a wifi network for various reasons. Or be able to print something on the go or when working outside.

Another use case are people who are living in a Google Docs world. It's easy to print "natively" out of that environment and not be aware of where you are from a network POV.

I agree with your POV btw, just pointing out where many people come from when they use this solution.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by deelowe »

mcagl wrote: post #38

I didn't know Google Cloud Print before, so I made some research on their site: https://www.google.com/cloudprint/learn/ """ Using Google Cloud Print, you can make your home and work printers available to you and anyone you choose, from the applications you use every day. Google Cloud Print works on your phone, tablet, Chromebook, PC, and any other web-connected device you want to print from. """ Ok, so my printer is…

This is the definition of FUD. I see claims like this all the time, but never find any substance. Does anyone have any data to demonstrate that statements such as "to improve printing" is intentionally misleading? Seriously, I'd love to know.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by awqrre »

thearn4 wrote: post #66
agumonkey wrote: post #6

We'll have Fusion reactors before solid and enjoyable printers.

I have a black and white Brother brand laser printer that has been great going on 5 years.

My HP inkjet multifunction printer of 9 years still works great but it always has given me issues with re-filled cartridges and it loves wasting ink when you install a new cartridge by printing a test page.
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