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Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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Re: Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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How does this compare to something like Grafana? https://github.com/grafana/grafana

Can I just take a moment, and I apologise up front for singling you out for this one, to say how much I hate comments like this, even more that they get upvoted. There's always some arbitrary software mentioned that is often barely related even tangentially and expect someone else to reply with the info. If you want to know how it differs, YOU look it up and if the outcome of that research is interesting enough YOU p…

I find GP's kind of post and the discussions that often follow to be some of the best on HN, IMO.

To me, it's the spirit of your post that drives many away from software development. This holier-than-thou attitude of how dare someone ask a reasonable question of people who might be able to easily answer, or direct to an answer.

Someone asking a question like this isn't saying, "Hey, next person that comes by, do some research for me" it's saying "Would someone that has already done this research mind sharing their findings?"

Progress in knowledge base communities is driven primarily by building on existing knowledge. The more readily knowledge is shared, the faster progress will be. So having a culture where anyone seeking answers must redo the groundwork that has already been done by others in order to "earn" the answer is an impediment to progress within that community.

Re: Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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How does this compare to something like Grafana? https://github.com/grafana/grafana

Can I just take a moment, and I apologise up front for singling you out for this one, to say how much I hate comments like this, even more that they get upvoted. There's always some arbitrary software mentioned that is often barely related even tangentially and expect someone else to reply with the info. If you want to know how it differs, YOU look it up and if the outcome of that research is interesting enough YOU p…

Well Grafana being pretty much the dominant dashboard tool for most users seems to make it the thing to compare against. I disagree with your thought as well. If I was to make a competitor to say Linux, it is up to me to tell people why it is better. Seems entirely reasonable to ask for seeing as how Grafana has support for an unbelievable amount of things and is quite battle tested for real ops and dev teams.

Re: Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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I would like to share some thoughts on this based on experience of being a crusty old enterprise developer. The dashboard problem keeps coming back. I think the time might be finally coming for some dashboard framework to actually succeed. A dashboard framework has been tried many many times. Here are some old ones just on the top of my head: * Shindig aka OpenSocial aka Google Gadgets * J2EE portlets * OpenUSS I'm n…

How do you deal with Grafana having no isolation? Do you deploy a new instance per client? Each user has full access to all datasources from what I've seen.

Re: Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because people these days want to use open source codes freely, without bothering with License. And people who open projects wants their project more widely used. GPL is too restrictive for new projects.

All the GPL says, at it's basic core, is that if you incorporate the source code of the software into your source code, you must provide a means for others to get a copy of that extended source code, and they must adhere by the GPL license as well. In other words, if you GPL license your code, and someone else uses it, they need to "pass it on" - in other words, their payment to you (and the community) for using your…

If you 'incorporate' a piece of GPL code into your program, you're either dynamically or statically linking to it - which the FSF considers to be make your work 'derivative' and thus you would be required to license your own work under the GPL, regardless of whether you had made any changes to the original GPL code you make use of or not.

Re: Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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Nice! Some quick feedback:

* I'd default to the "light" theme, especially if you're presenting it against dark background. It will highlight the content better. * You could use some whitespace between the widget titles and the content. The text is sliding into the graphs. * Might be nice to use more than two colors for the graph content, or at least make one of them different from black, which is also the color used used for the tables and titles.

Re: Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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I would like to share some thoughts on this based on experience of being a crusty old enterprise developer. The dashboard problem keeps coming back. I think the time might be finally coming for some dashboard framework to actually succeed. A dashboard framework has been tried many many times. Here are some old ones just on the top of my head: * Shindig aka OpenSocial aka Google Gadgets * J2EE portlets * OpenUSS I'm n…

Jenkins: the duct tape and WD40 of software automation.

Amen

Re: Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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There seems to be a plethora of these open source dashboard builder systems. I just want to pay for a hosted version that isn't going to be $1k monthly and require me to build "plugins" to do something that is akin to an API call.

Microsoft Power BI [0] is only $10 per user per month, while Amazon Quicksight [1] is $9 per user per month.

In the startup space, there is also Mode [2] which has reasonable starting pricing at $25 per user per month.

I've used all three, and my personal favorite is Power BI. They are all great though.

[0] https://powerbi.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/?b=1

[1] https://quicksight.aws/pricing/

[2] https://about.modeanalytics.com/pricing/

Re: Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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How does this compare to something like Grafana? https://github.com/grafana/grafana

Can I just take a moment, and I apologise up front for singling you out for this one, to say how much I hate comments like this, even more that they get upvoted. There's always some arbitrary software mentioned that is often barely related even tangentially and expect someone else to reply with the info. If you want to know how it differs, YOU look it up and if the outcome of that research is interesting enough YOU p…

IMO this is totally backwards. A new product should justify why it's preferable to what's out there. Don't waste potential users' time making them research when you could just lay it out for them.
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