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Amazon Worker Jumps Off Company Building After E-Mail to Staff
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#62> The man had recently put in a request to transfer to a different department, but was placed on an employee improvement plan
Having escaped from an abusive manager myself, I can imagine what this person went though. Managers that are skilled in the art are able to inflict pain without leaving much of a paper trail.
I did ask for (and got) professional help, including medication. There's only so much stress 24/7 that you are able to handle before you start to crack. Who knows what would have happened if I just tried to ride it out.
I'd have gone bananas if I had been placed in a PIP instead. This was one of the possibilities identified by my branch predictor, so I was collecting a mountain of evidence against said manager. Thankfully, it wasn't needed.
(I realize that nowhere in the article it says a manager was the issue, but corporate pattern-matching gets pretty good after a while)
Re: Amazon Worker Jumps Off Company Building After E-Mail to Staff
#63Amazon screws employees in ways unseen in other companies. From the perspective of an engineer, this is a terrible place for people to work and grow. To list a few things: - Equity vesting schedule is 5%, 15%, 40%, 40% over 4 years - Relocation package is prorated for TWO years. If you leave after staying for a full year, you still need to return 50% of it. - 401K matching only vests after working for 3 years. If you…
I don't understand this. Amazon seems to have seriously cutting edge infrastructure; they sell it as a service and operate more servers than google. Also, according to the article 20k people work for them, although I am not sure if that was total or engineers. I am curious how they can retain people to manage all of their operations. Those terms sound terrible and not competitive. I would take those terms, but I am d…
"Amazon seems to have seriously cutting edge infrastructure"
How do you know? Based on what they sell through AWS? This is not super evident - they might have duct taped bunch of shitty stuff and rely on people on-call 24x7 to keep system running.
Re: Amazon Worker Jumps Off Company Building After E-Mail to Staff
#64Amazon screws employees in ways unseen in other companies. From the perspective of an engineer, this is a terrible place for people to work and grow. To list a few things: - Equity vesting schedule is 5%, 15%, 40%, 40% over 4 years - Relocation package is prorated for TWO years. If you leave after staying for a full year, you still need to return 50% of it. - 401K matching only vests after working for 3 years. If you…
I don't understand this. Amazon seems to have seriously cutting edge infrastructure; they sell it as a service and operate more servers than google. Also, according to the article 20k people work for them, although I am not sure if that was total or engineers. I am curious how they can retain people to manage all of their operations. Those terms sound terrible and not competitive. I would take those terms, but I am d…
The nightmare stories are often from years ago or non devs. There are some pretty awful oncalls though.
I'm on a team I like, work with people I get along with and have hours that are good (2 years after college, I make enough (~160k total comp, a bit over 100k salary) for money to not really be a motivating factor.
When I first got to amazon, I fully expected to jump ship within 6 months and move somewhere else. I stayed because I liked the people and the work was fine. If my team culture changes and I don't like it, I'll look external and internal then leave.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
It looks like those details were omitted from the Bloomberg article.
Yes, the Seattle PI article said that he fell 20 feet (2 stories) into a balcony after jumping from the 12 story building.
Following this, he was assigned to Amazon's employee suicide improvement plan.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand this. Amazon seems to have seriously cutting edge infrastructure; they sell it as a service and operate more servers than google. Also, according to the article 20k people work for them, although I am not sure if that was total or engineers. I am curious how they can retain people to manage all of their operations. Those terms sound terrible and not competitive. I would take those terms, but I am d…
"Amazon seems to have seriously cutting edge infrastructure" How do you know? Based on what they sell through AWS? This is not super evident - they might have duct taped bunch of shitty stuff and rely on people on-call 24x7 to keep system running.
I have heard whispers of this, and the mention of common on call hours seems to lend it some credibility
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#67Re: Amazon Worker Jumps Off Company Building After E-Mail to Staff
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
The fact that he views less than 50 hours a week (ie less than ten hours a day... ten!) as somehow worth bragging about says even more.
I considered working at Pixar at one point, and spoke to their hiring department. Curiously, they considered the salary they were offering you to be for 50 hours per week. This wasn't an upper limit; no, you were expected to do occasional overtime past 50. But 50 was the baseline . I didn't follow through with the interview process. Screw that.
50 hours seems to be normal in some effects houses, which are increasingly operating like sweat shops. Weta Digital is also the same. And they strictly expect minimum 50 hours there.
Re: Amazon Worker Jumps Off Company Building After E-Mail to Staff
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand this. Amazon seems to have seriously cutting edge infrastructure; they sell it as a service and operate more servers than google. Also, according to the article 20k people work for them, although I am not sure if that was total or engineers. I am curious how they can retain people to manage all of their operations. Those terms sound terrible and not competitive. I would take those terms, but I am d…
"Amazon seems to have seriously cutting edge infrastructure" How do you know? Based on what they sell through AWS? This is not super evident - they might have duct taped bunch of shitty stuff and rely on people on-call 24x7 to keep system running.
There's only so much duct-tape you can throw at a problem before it becomes unmanageable. The scale, complexity and reliability of AWS indicates that they are indeed running a tight (and tidy) ship.
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#70Do they still have the backloaded RSU vesting schedule? Something like 5%, 15%, 40%, 40% (each year)? Does anyone else do this?
I've heard it might be 5/15/(20-20)/(20-20) in some departments. I have no idea if splitting last two years in half would really help with hiring.