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Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by SixSigma »

cyberferret wrote: post #7

Way back nearly two decades ago, I set up an early version of ActiveSync on my Palm Treo device. I noticed there was an option in the Treo email settings to disable real time syncing between certain times (after office hours), but I was SO excited about getting and responding to real time emails on my little phone device that I thought "Who the HECK would want to stop this wonderful flow of emails". Later when I upgr…

I got rid of the smartphone and went back to feature phone.

I also have a 7" tablet so I can tether if I really need to.

Life is better.

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by hueving »

Mithaldu wrote: post #58
pfortuny wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine you miss your child's goal just because you were checking your oh-so-important Excel spreadsheet. Addiction, as you say. Lack of freedom (as any addiction is). Plain stupid.

Is that better or worse than if you miss it because your boss wouldn't let you go at all? I've had friends from the USA eat the cost of a plane ticket because their supervisor told them they'd get time off for a visit to Germany, but then got dunked on two weeks before the flight by their supervisor's supervisor, precisely because they wouldn't have been able to react to emergencies in Germany, and this entirely due…

This is a good point. I've had jobs where I could work from anywhere, and I would rather work visiting relatives and friends rather than not visit them at all.

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by cyberferret »

denzil_correa wrote: post #59
cyberferret wrote: post #7

Way back nearly two decades ago, I set up an early version of ActiveSync on my Palm Treo device. I noticed there was an option in the Treo email settings to disable real time syncing between certain times (after office hours), but I was SO excited about getting and responding to real time emails on my little phone device that I thought "Who the HECK would want to stop this wonderful flow of emails". Later when I upgr…

> I am totally sick of the deluge of mail from what is now 6 separate email addresses. I do not use the Mail app in iOS. Rather (ironically), I use Outlook my Microsoft. It has a "Focused" and "Other" Inbox of all your mails. It only notifies you mail coming to your "Focused" inbox which it learns over time. I'm pretty happy about it.

I still use Gmail/Inbox in the browser on my Mac, or their respective apps on iOS. I am playing with PolyMail at the moment on the desktop to see how I like it.

If there is a solution like Outlook's "focused" inbox for macOS I would love to hear about it...

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by delegate »

This. Work work work.

Work is the process of mapping nature into products and (then) waste.

If nobody needs the 'fruits' of your work, there's always marketing and advertising which can make people want them.

This my friends is the reason our planet is fast becoming uninhabitable.

People doing too much work.

I think we've achieved a lot, now it's time to take a look around and take a look inside.

Is it possible to build a society which is not built around the concept of 'work'?

Are there any other human values which could replace it ?

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by cyberferret »

cam_l wrote: post #40
cyberferret wrote: post #7

Way back nearly two decades ago, I set up an early version of ActiveSync on my Palm Treo device. I noticed there was an option in the Treo email settings to disable real time syncing between certain times (after office hours), but I was SO excited about getting and responding to real time emails on my little phone device that I thought "Who the HECK would want to stop this wonderful flow of emails". Later when I upgr…

One thing I find with google Inbox which makes it indispensable on mobile is the ability to schedule times for notifications for individual addresses, groups and/or folders. Weekly, hourly, never.. whatever.

Nice. I've never dived deep into Inbox and didn't realise you could do this. Thanks for the heads up.

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by mherrmann »

There are two aspects to this imho:

1) The glorification of a lifestyle completely dominated by work.

2) Microsoft offering products that you can use from anywhere, at any time.

The article is mostly about 1). But I do think that 2) is to be applauded.

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by orly_bookz »

midgetjones wrote: post #46
andrewingram wrote: post #35

Article mashes up a valid grievance with an irrelevant attack on the quality of Marvel films. Anger is a powerful tool, but it can really weaken your argument if not used with precision. I also think the message of this particular advert doesn't justify the strength of this attack.

At the very least, it's ridiculous to call it a 'sweatshop'. The kid making DHH's shoes would probably love to work for Marvel. Yes, I am fighting hyperbole with hyperbole.

I get your hyperbole but simply as a matter of course I'm gonna have to throw a flag: that's the fallacy of relative privation.

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by jobigoud »

herbst wrote: post #50
bad_user wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they want to let you turn off notifications, when that's the thing that keeps you into using those apps? Seriously, companies have psychologists on staff analyzing the behavior of users, with their job being coming up with ways to keep you hooked. Why on earth would you receive notifications for people liking your stupid messages on Twitter or Facebook, if it weren't for our inflated ego craving for those n…

Worst on twitter is notifications because 2 people i follow retweetet the same post...

It feels that this should be handled by the notification layer. Do not push notifications for things I've already seen.

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by scandox »

themgt wrote: post #12

A little hyperbolic, based on a single line from an exec at a different company in a single ad. I get this is a great way to promote their brand, but it seems pretty close to your standard in-group clickbait marketing: 1) pick a big target everyone can hate on 2) blow something minor out of proportion so you can claim outrage / assert your values 3) profit

It would hyperbolic if it didn't represent a reality for many people and wasn't part of a definite trend in modern work.

I agree he uses the strategies you mention, but he does it in this case to attack something real. Asserting values is not intrinsically a negative. His rhetoric is profane and aggressive which would not be my style, but it does appear to be effective these days.

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by skrause »

Mithaldu wrote: post #58
pfortuny wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine you miss your child's goal just because you were checking your oh-so-important Excel spreadsheet. Addiction, as you say. Lack of freedom (as any addiction is). Plain stupid.

Is that better or worse than if you miss it because your boss wouldn't let you go at all? I've had friends from the USA eat the cost of a plane ticket because their supervisor told them they'd get time off for a visit to Germany, but then got dunked on two weeks before the flight by their supervisor's supervisor, precisely because they wouldn't have been able to react to emergencies in Germany, and this entirely due…

Speaking of Germany... Here in Germany your employer can only cancel already approved vacations if a real emergency happens (e.g. the company will go bankrupt if you leave) and you haven't started your trip yet. And your employer also has to eat all costs you have because your delayed trip.
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