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Re: Watch out: ɢoogle.com isn’t the same as Google.com

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What about ‮goog‬le.com which is really google.com :)

TR36 bidi spoofs are usually worse than TR39 confusables. Move over with your cursor over it. http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr36/#Bidirectional_Text_Spoo...

That's why browsers or dns tools use libidn, just programming languages not.

Re: Watch out: ɢoogle.com isn’t the same as Google.com

#62
post #56

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l33t-speak is so far off my radar that I was wondering if there was some hot startup called '4 people 3' or somesuch. I doubt anyone at Apple remotely cares about l33t-speak from a branding perspective.

To be fair, I don't think I know anyone who "cares" about l33t speak. H4xx0r j0k3s is all it is. I never seen anyone go out of their way to defend or use leet speak all day long.

In some countries, it's the best that can be done for vanity car registration plates.

e.g. a site selling them in the UK is promoting "JO66 ERX", which is probably supposed to be read as "Jogger X". Current bid £750, for some reason.

Re: Watch out: ɢoogle.com isn’t the same as Google.com

#63
There has been talk at the IETF of redefining IDNA2008 (the current way you prevent issues like this) in terms of the PRECIS framework (RFC 7564). This wouldn't exactly "solve" the problem, but it would mean that IDNA could be more agile with respect to Unicode versions and would make it easier to react to new problems, new confusable characters, etc. as they happen.

Re: Watch out: ɢoogle.com isn’t the same as Google.com

#64
post #57

Unicode URLs are the devil. Too many indistinguishable characters. URLs should stay full ASCII imho. And I say that as someone whose language requires non-ASCII symbols. Or, in Bruce Schneier's words: "Unicode is just too complex to ever be secure."

But think about the poor underrepresented folks using foreign character sets?

You really need to support this 'sub café {} café()' => Undefined subroutine café in your friendly and social programming language, otherwise you will be accused of discrimination. Of course the two é are not normalized.

Which unicode-friendly language does really check for mixed script confusables? Java only is my guess. Even perl6 falls into this trap.

http://unicode.org/reports/tr39/#Mixed_Script_Confusables

Re: Watch out: ɢoogle.com isn’t the same as Google.com

#65

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Considering it's already registered, I'd say it's possible: https://whois.domaintools.com/xn--gogle-kye.com

Thanks, I was wrong. That's even worse than I thought.

It looks like Google got all lookalikes, because I just tried with a Greek ο and that's also registered by them.

Re: Watch out: ɢoogle.com isn’t the same as Google.com

#67
post #27

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Most browsers should forcibly transcribe this to Punycode[1]: https://www.𝙿𝙰𝚈𝙿𝙰𝙻.com/ And yet when I paste this into the latest Firefox it redirects to https://www.paypal.com/ No 301 redirects or anything, the browser just treats it like ASCII, which it is clearly not, it actually happens to be Fullwidth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fullwidth_form Serious phishing opportunity if you ask me! [1] https://en.wik…

Nope. The browser is behaving sensibly, since you can't register that domain. It's applying the same rules that the registrars do. ICANN require that registries follow RFC3491 and related RFCs for name prep before allowing a name to be registered https://www.icann.org/resources/unthemed-pages/idn-guideline... . What that one does is (among other things) NFKC normalization and case-folding: irb(main):016:0> "\ufeff\uf…

So if I mix ASCII with obscure UTF8 characters like the domain in OP's post I can register it then?

Something like www.paypal.com --> www.n--pal-n76secrc.com

Re: Watch out: ɢoogle.com isn’t the same as Google.com

#68
post #49

This is something that's been bugging me for years. Why are there multiple representations of alphabet characters in Unicode? It seems reasonable to include accent marks, but what's the benefit in having a Cyrillic 'o' alongside a standard 'o' or the 2 or 3 other ASCII-lookalike sets of characters?

There will never be agreement what's the set of distinct characters (also, what characters should be included, bitcoin logo, facebook logo?)). I see Unicode as a necessary evil. Due to its complexity most applications should treat Unicode text as black boxes.

I never rely on Unicode for computation. When receiving Unicode I always make sure it's in the ASCII range. It could be argued that there should never have been Unicode domain names but I guess Western people are very lucky that ASCII includes most of their characters...

Re: Watch out: ɢoogle.com isn’t the same as Google.com

#69

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Everybody who isn't colorblind anyway.

Use blue, the most common types of color blindness are red-green issues(there's a really tiny percentage that doesn't perceive colors at all but really really tiny. And other than those, nobody has trouble with blue) Source: I'm colorblind(protanope) and red would definitely be an issue. Android studio, for example, is really annoying for me because the particular red they use for errors is very hard to distinguish f…

That kind of violates the intuitive "red/orange/yellow is alarm, blue/green/black is expected" notion though. What you could do is put ASCII characters in blue and non-ASCII characters in red.

Re: Watch out: ɢoogle.com isn’t the same as Google.com

#70
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For me it just redirects to http://money.get.away.get.a.good.job.with.jack.ilovevitaly.com The actual domain is http://xn--oogle-wmc.com/ Which is an Internationalized domain name[1] in punycode transcription [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalized_domain_name The G in question here is https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C9%A2 OR http://charcod.es/#%C9%A2/610

Interesting, this domain now redirects to:

    http://money.get.away.get.a.good.job.with.more.pay.and.you.are.okay.money.it.is.a.gas.grab.that.cash.with.both.hands.and.make.a.stash.new.car.caviar.four.star.daydream.think.i.ll.buy.me.a.football.team.money.get.back.i.am.alright.jack.ilovevitaly.com/#.keep.off.my.stack.money.it.is.a.hit.do.not.give.me.that.do.goody.good.bullshit.i.am.in.the.hi.fidelity.first.class.travelling.set.and.i.think.i.need.a.lear.jet.money.it.is.a.secret.%C9%A2oogle.com/#.share.it.fairly.but.dont.take.a.slice.of.my.pie.money.so.they.say.is.the.root.of.all.evil.today.but.if.you.ask.for.a.rise.it%27s.no.surprise.that.they.are.giving.none.and.secret.%C9%A2oogle.com
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