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Where's the download for Preview? It's not in https://www.visualstudio.com/downloads/
Probably won't be available before the Connect conference next week (November 16-18). > At Connect(); in November, Microsoft is launching a preview of Visual Studio for Mac.
So Microsoft is treating the Mac more seriously as a professional platform while Apple is treating it less seriously? I'm not saying this in a snarky way; I mean it literally as a change of corporate strategies in both companies. Microsoft seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work, we want to do a better job of empowering you, and Apple seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly…
Apple is not saying anything like this, just a bunch of whiners twisting things. Just like they did after any Mac upgrade.
From the exterior (I'm too young and the only Mac I've ever used was the Macintosh Plus -bragging, with 4Mo of RAM- while I was a child), it really seems like Apple has dropped the ball for professionals, both developers and graphics people.
There are now equally well designed PCs (laptops and desktops) from other manufacturers, Windows has a lot of support, if you want to use Linux, the kernel now supports a wide range of hardware.
In the meantime, Apple doesn't have a good desktop offering, and their laptops seem gimmicky to me while not offering a performance edge over their competitors.
A few months ago I thought about buying a (my first) Macbook and waited for their announcement, now I'm looking the other way.
And around me, I'm the guy people go to ask when they have a computer related purchase to make.
So Microsoft is treating the Mac more seriously as a professional platform while Apple is treating it less seriously? I'm not saying this in a snarky way; I mean it literally as a change of corporate strategies in both companies. Microsoft seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work, we want to do a better job of empowering you, and Apple seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly…
Apple is not saying anything like this, just a bunch of whiners twisting things. Just like they did after any Mac upgrade.
I am a developer and I could not care less about function keys.
Why the duck would developers need function keys? Even for Vim, the age-old advice is to remap Esc so that you keep your hands on the home row.
A flexible multi-touch strip of context-aware keys can do much more things -- e.g. map debugger step moves when I'm running an IDE, or trigger builds, show the SCM status of the current opened file, etc.
Interesting, but I can also see some risks with their approach. Now they have three different Visual Studios with completely different technology stacks. 1) Visual Studio for Windows (C++, I assume?) 2) Visual Studio Code (Javascript, Atom) 3) Visual Studio for Mac (C#)
Hmm I have been googling for the last 15 minutes to find the difference between visual studio and visual studio code and cant seem to find a concrete answer. I thought yours was actually a hint at what it is aimed for but when you go to: http://code.visualstudio.com/ it actually says it supports c++,c#... I still dont get what the difference is.. Having only ever developed on linux I am actually slightly excited to u…
So Microsoft is treating the Mac more seriously as a professional platform while Apple is treating it less seriously? I'm not saying this in a snarky way; I mean it literally as a change of corporate strategies in both companies. Microsoft seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work, we want to do a better job of empowering you, and Apple seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly…
If we're comparing Apples-to-Apples (seriously, pun not (originally) intended), Apple continues to rev on the XCode IDE every year adding more features to it. Most recently, they added a nifty visual memory debugger[1] and have taken another stab at device & certificate provisioning. [1]: http://useyourloaf.com/blog/xcode-visual-memory-debugger/
I'm glad to see more Microsoft dev tools on other platforms but don't lose sight of why this is happening. Microsoft is shifting their business to the cloud. They make their money off Azure and other services. In other words, they are making their money mainly off of developers now and its in their best interest to get on the good side of devs which is why they suddenly have a vested interest in open sourcing tools a…
Back when .Net was Windows only, they gave it away because the goal was the developers would pay a lot of money for MSDN, GUI apps on Windows, SQL Server, Office, and Sharepoint integration, etc. But .Net core is mostly server side, so I'm having trouble figuring why they'd bother giving away VS to Mac users without being forced to run on Azure in production.
I wonder if it will continue to support Android, or if there will be a Linux release.
Interesting, but I can also see some risks with their approach. Now they have three different Visual Studios with completely different technology stacks. 1) Visual Studio for Windows (C++, I assume?) 2) Visual Studio Code (Javascript, Atom) 3) Visual Studio for Mac (C#)
Visual Studio for Windows is written in C# with WPF, but your point is still valid since they are two different codebases