It makes me sad so see that they waste time on decoration like gif search but they don't have a client I can use on my PC for example.
Not perfect, but: https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal-desktop/
Signal and Giphy
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Re: Signal and Giphy
#62It makes me sad so see that they waste time on decoration like gif search but they don't have a client I can use on my PC for example.
Not perfect, but: https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal-desktop/
Yes I did know about this but you probably know about the obvious problem
> Signal Desktop is a Chrome app
I'd rather switch to whatsapp before I intentionally install that PUP again.
Re: Signal and Giphy
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
You cache a unique ID and then see if you get a hit.
Which unique id? I thought the point of sending it via Signal was to not include any user id or any other id.
I don't know which attack the Signal guys had in mind, but usually how this works is that the server serves a file with a unique ID to a person, sees that it gets requested, then serves the same thing again in a subsequent request to a suspect, sees that it's not requested, and treats that as evidence that the two accounts are actually the same person.
It's obviously easier when you can correlate this with a single account, but that's the gist of the attack.
Re: Signal and Giphy
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why should those of us who care about privacy be required to limit the media we use to express ourselves? By including this functionality Open Whisper Systems is giving the privacy conscious a way (albeit experimental) to have our cake and eat it too.
Someone else made that media. They're the one expressing something. You, the consumer of that media, are just a distributor of their work.
You seem to think that those options are exclusive when in fact gif memes are a blatant example of how they aren't.
The original creator of (say) a video expresses something, a remixer expresses something when they cut it into a gif, and you're expressing something when you send someone the gif in a conversation. The thing that's expressed is almost necessarily different, and each step involves creative choices.
Re: Signal and Giphy
#65It makes me sad so see that they waste time on decoration like gif search but they don't have a client I can use on my PC for example.
I honestly don't know if this comment is serious. My girlfriend won't use Signal because it doesn't let her send stickers.
This is only a first step in the right direction.
Re: Signal and Giphy
#66It makes me sad so see that they waste time on decoration like gif search but they don't have a client I can use on my PC for example.
Not perfect, but: https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal-desktop/
I've given up on Signal (for now at least). Yes the encryption and privacy is great but without a decent desktop client it's hard to get others in my network to switch to it.
Two things bothered me about the desktop application - it runs as a Chrome application rather than in a tab (not sure if there is a technical reason for this?). If I care enough out privacy to run Signal then I probably don't want to broadcast to anyone watching my screen that I'm running it (like a boss walking past etc) and would rather bury it amongst my other open tabs. I also couldn't find any obvious way to sign out of or lock the desktop client - if this isn't just user error then it seems like a significant oversight for a secure messaging app to not allow the user to control access if someone else was able to access the computer.
It also really bothered me that signal doesn't give me better control over what contacts can see my phone number. When I signed in I could see phone numbers for a contractor I had used for remodelling my home. The desktop client had them listed as someone to message on the default page. It's not a huge deal in this situation but if the phone number was for someone I no longer wanted to be in touch with (a former partner etc) then there was no obvious way in either the Android app or desktop client to block them. I assume that the other user can also see my details - security should include having control over who can see your phone number.
Edit: Screenshots from the desktop app as a response to comment below:
http://imgur.com/5nK07ER - the default screen http://imgur.com/mmEyQWH - the settings UI
http://imgur.com/gjdyPsF - showing Signal in my dock for all to see.
Re: Signal and Giphy
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not perfect, but: https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal-desktop/
Yes I did know about this but you probably know about the obvious problem > Signal Desktop is a Chrome app I'd rather switch to whatsapp before I intentionally install that PUP again.
It's just Javascript, you don't need Chrome to run it. eg[0]
[0]: https://timtaubert.de/blog/2016/01/build-your-own-signal-des...
Re: Signal and Giphy
#68It makes me sad so see that they waste time on decoration like gif search but they don't have a client I can use on my PC for example.
I honestly don't know if this comment is serious. My girlfriend won't use Signal because it doesn't let her send stickers. This is only a first step in the right direction.
People underestimate a lot the power of "useless" features, if well designed, to attract new users.
Telegram's Stickers are probably one of the features that most people feel other messengers lack to make people enjoy using it. Lots of friends are actually communicating daily through GIF's.
Re: Signal and Giphy
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes I did know about this but you probably know about the obvious problem > Signal Desktop is a Chrome app I'd rather switch to whatsapp before I intentionally install that PUP again.
It's just Javascript, you don't need Chrome to run it. eg[0] [0]: https://timtaubert.de/blog/2016/01/build-your-own-signal-des...
Not sure if I should laugh or cry.
I don't know what half of the stuff is I have to download there on a system I don't usually run.
It's nice to know that it is possible to somehow get this running without Chrome and thanks for that but, hell...this is what I'm talking about. Wasting time on decorations that are now available through one button vs. THIS or the PUP version of it.
Re: Signal and Giphy
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
I honestly don't know if this comment is serious. My girlfriend won't use Signal because it doesn't let her send stickers. This is only a first step in the right direction.
People underestimate a lot the power of "useless" features, if well designed, to attract new users. Telegram's Stickers are probably one of the features that most people feel other messengers lack to make people enjoy using it. Lots of friends are actually communicating daily through GIF's.
The desktop client without having to have my phone around is useful too.