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Re: Academia, Love Me Back

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post #14

Wow. Just, wow. "This is not your word"??? Even when I stretch my charitable suspension of disbelief to its absolute limit I cannot come up with any interpretation of that phrase that is even remotely defensible.

Well, if taken out of context supplied by the author of the article, "This is not your word" could be interpreted as an observation that there is a phrase that does not fit the style of writing of the piece as a whole. That would make it constructive criticism.

Re: Academia, Love Me Back

#62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe not an active KKK-rally attending racist, but a soft racist? There's a reason why two identical resumes for post-graduate work get rated differently when the names are "Chad" vs "Shaniqua". The fact is, when you really get down to it, most people are subconsciously racist. Not a joke - most people. There have been studies on it and everything.

If we're all racist, and that racism is enough to condemn any of us at the whim of someone else, what's the point in trying to not be racist?

Unlike many other animals, humans have the capacity for abstract thought, moral consideration, and behavior not entirely driven by instinct.

As such, we can recognize the harmful effect of fallacies such as racial prejudice, both on ourselves and on society as a whole, and utilize our ability as sentient beings to avoid such behavior.

Re: Academia, Love Me Back

#63
post #37

Interestingly this happened to me and to my younger brother. There was no racial component to it although we do belong to a religious minority, come from low-income backgrounds and were homeschooled. I personally felt some prejudice at various times on account of these characteristics. In my case I was a 16 year old high school dropout taking a history class at a Junior College. My prof had a lengthy conversation bas…

> My prof had a lengthy conversation basically trying to get me to admit my parents wrote an essay for me and eventually gave up, although clearly unconvinced.

Couldn't she have spent the time talking to you about history and confirming your analytical and literacy skills were up to the required standard?

Re: Academia, Love Me Back

#64

Her post is largely vacuous and superficial. Why? Because it doesn't really provide any evidence that would help the reader understand what really happened. Most of it consists of descriptions of her feelings, uncorroborated accusations, tired ideological slogans, a pervasive self-pity, and the presumption of racism. Add to that the other interesting bits in the article such as how she demands to be recognized as an…

I'm puzzled by your comment, especially the first few sentences. What did you not understand from her blog post? What kind of evidence would help you understand? What would you ask her to clarify, what would you like to know, if you were told this story in person instead of as a blog post?

Re: Academia, Love Me Back

#65
post #37

Interestingly this happened to me and to my younger brother. There was no racial component to it although we do belong to a religious minority, come from low-income backgrounds and were homeschooled. I personally felt some prejudice at various times on account of these characteristics. In my case I was a 16 year old high school dropout taking a history class at a Junior College. My prof had a lengthy conversation bas…

I had the same experience in high school, I assume it was because I thought English as it was taught was total garbage, so I obviously didn't show any interest in class.

Was really weird being accused of plagiarism for something I knew I wrote. I mostly didn't care enough to contest it though.

Re: Academia, Love Me Back

#66
post #46

I've had professors do this to me. I don't understand what's wrong with this. This is a common thing I even do when grading programming assignments. When I notice a stylistic choice that is outside of the norm for the students I can usually tell exactly who the work came from. Every semester I catch at least one group of cheaters (This semester I caught two!) and they admit to it after I confront them with it. "Hence…

> Just because something is possible/correct in a language and that the person wiring the piece has every bit of ability to use the complex structure at had it doesn't mean they would normally do so. Sure it's not accurate, and sure you may not be right with every call (hasn't happened to me yet but other TAs have called people out and have turned out to be wrong), but it's something that I'd call a "clue" that somet…

or "writing" instead of wiring

Re: Academia, Love Me Back

#67
I just saw an interesting attitude when a people encountered a tough-time. They didn't fight, instead, they accused, they accused every people dared to question them, accused them as racist, as mean, as not polite, as any possibility they could think of. Come on, this is how the society goes and this is happens every time. And if you tends to have this kind of mindset. Every time you face a challenge, you accuse someone else. To be honest, you are just a lamentable loser. Life is hard and everyone will face their low tide, fight back, not only accusing.

Re: Academia, Love Me Back

#68
And I remembered, when I was a freshman, in my Chinese writing class, my teacher insulted me in front of the class like this, "good novel, but never copy and paste", why? because he thought this kind of writing style can't be accomplished by a freshman. I just simply answered, "Thanks. But I never plagiarize" The teacher shocked for few seconds, then he apologize and said "I will recommend to the publication". And my classmates all can't wait to see my novel since the curiosity of human being. If I just accused them without fighting back, things will went to another direction undoubtedly.

Re: Academia, Love Me Back

#69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe not an active KKK-rally attending racist, but a soft racist? There's a reason why two identical resumes for post-graduate work get rated differently when the names are "Chad" vs "Shaniqua". The fact is, when you really get down to it, most people are subconsciously racist. Not a joke - most people. There have been studies on it and everything.

If you replace the names with "MIT" and "mediocre four-year institution that no-one ever heard of" suddenly it becomes less straightforward. Race is a proxy for education, and that's where the real injustice is.

Race is not just a proxy for education. Racism affects Asian-Americans, despite their good educational track record as a broad group; African immigrants, despite the fact that Nigerian immigrants and Nigerian-Americans make up the immigrant group with the largest number of PhDs per capita in the US immigrant landscape; and British immigrants, who everyone thinks are smart because of the accent (despite no better educational attainment than anyone else).

The real injustice is that my black students cannot earn or learn their way out of being black in America. A Caltech education doesn't help when you're pulled over by the cops. This blogger's ability to use "Hence" in a literature review won't help either.

Re: Academia, Love Me Back

#70
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe not an active KKK-rally attending racist, but a soft racist? There's a reason why two identical resumes for post-graduate work get rated differently when the names are "Chad" vs "Shaniqua". The fact is, when you really get down to it, most people are subconsciously racist. Not a joke - most people. There have been studies on it and everything.

"The fact is, when you really get down to it, most people are subconsciously racist. Not a joke - most people." If this is true, why the moral outrage towards the professor?

1) Polite people try to cover up their racism; it's not socially acceptable in the US. This is not the case in all countries -- I've been in other countries where certain levels are racism are really still A-OK. For instance, in some Scandinavian countries it's not unusual to have a housing contract that says the place can't be rented or sold to Roma/Gypsies. Few people see anything wrong with that -- it's something you just obviously wouldn't want to happen!

2) The professor should be better at their job (I say as a prof). I accuse students of plagiarism only if I have proof, and the last 4 times it's happened I've been able to highlight passages and provide the citation of the original paper, with the page number. Or I can show the student their peer's paper with the same exact sentences and typos. I'm sure it's plagiarism. If I can't prove it, I poke around. I ask the student to come in and describe their process to me, talk through their notes. This works. People crack, or they reveal their legit process. Sometimes that legit process includes a crappy first draft that got immensely better via four sessions with the Writing Center. Great. Sometimes their not-quite-legit process involves too much help from their girlfriend. Then we have a talk about what's appropriate and how they can rectify the situation.

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