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Xiaomi unveils concept phone with near bezel-less display

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Re: Xiaomi unveils concept phone with near bezel-less display

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Post by celticninja »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #48

Things I don't particularly care about in a phone: - Bezel size - Weight - Thickness - Manufacturer-specific apps and skins - Screen resolution beyond that of my eyes - Fastest possible processor Things I care about in a phone: - Ability to make calls - Battery life - Replaceable battery - Fits in my pocket - Expandable storage - Durable - Decent camera - Inexpensive - Gets security updates And what do the latest pho…

you should probably have a look at xiamoi phones then, they dont really go for the super thin, super expensive phone. the redmi note pro 3 is approx $150, has a 4000mah battery, decent processor, good camera, average screensize and you can run cyanogenmod to ensure security updates.

no wireless charging or waterproofing as yet but it does come with an inbuilt IR blaster which helps if you have many remote controls which go missing from time to time.

Re: Xiaomi unveils concept phone with near bezel-less display

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Post by tluyben2 »

mrmrben wrote: post #40
neals wrote: post #4

Without the bezels, all our phones will look the same. We'll be holding a slab of pixels with some OS, with some voice-activated assistent, with some apps. More or less the same. Even more so than now.

Once we went to slabs with the original iPhone all our phones have generally looked the same. Thus this already happened.

That is less true in the west for now I think; I see enough difference in phones to recognize the different brands from a distance; however in China, it seems that all 'local' brands (most of which you never heard of) are all just making identically looking phones, mostly mirrored after the iPhone 6+/7+. With some interesting exceptions, I cannot really see the difference even from closer up with, outwardly, the same materials, same buttons in the same locations etc. It becomes even harder to see when people have a case around their phone.

Not sure if it is fundamentally a bad thing; it'll push prices down and manufacturers who want to distinguish will try other forms. Like I said before, and some here seem to agree, please experiment with more battery, focusing less on the size or speed. At the electronics fair in Hong Kong last week a friend gave me a tablet which is so cheap that if you drop it you wouldn't even pick it up but just get a new one (his words, not mine) and it is fast enough for me to browse, play some games, chat and have fine battery life. More battery life for this that kind of thing matters to me personally more than screen size/resolution or speed as the latter is more than enough for most people anyway but at the same time people complain mostly about battery life.

Re: Xiaomi unveils concept phone with near bezel-less display

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Post by cbr »

dingo_bat wrote: post #27
mtw wrote: post #8

I really like the design (better imho than Google Pixel). Hope they get some success and Apple/Google/Samsung take note to refresh with newer designs

> better imho than Google Pixel That's not saying much at all.

I had thought people we're pretty excited about the new Pixel phone? Like http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/18/13304090/google-pixel-pho... etc.

Or am I just in a bubble as a Google employee, where I hear disproportionately good responses to our stuff?

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Post by jonknee »

dogma1138 wrote: post #24
yoz-y wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One way to do so is to make the UI in a way that it does not have anything actionable on the bezels. Kind of a "virtual" bezel.

Then honestly what's the point? You are going to sacrifice structural integrity and add cost and complexity. A virtual bezel is about as "useful" as using virtual buttons on an Android device that has physical capacitive buttons, I never understood why people do that.

> Then honestly what's the point? You are going to sacrifice structural integrity and add cost and complexity.

You get a big screen in a smaller form factor. Photos/videos will look great without a large bezel and it will fit better in your pocket.

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Post by semi-extrinsic »

mhurron wrote: post #20
kbody wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I'm more function over form so and I can't imagine having a bezel-less phone that won't be a nightmare to use (using one hand).

First thing I do with any phone is put it in a case. Bezel-less is irrelevant to me, I'm going to put one in place. 'Thinnest phone ever' is similarly meaningless to me for the same reasons. I don't want a phone that feels like I'm going to snap it in half simply by using it.

iPhone user? Because I've never had the need to put a case on any of my Android phones, including me and my wife's $150 Moto G3s that get thrown around by our kids.

And I do get quite some amusement out of a product praised for it's premium design, materials and svelte features always being carried in a thick ugly plastic/silicon bumper case by essentially everyone.

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Post by pjmlp »

mey wrote: post #56
aembleton wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With Android there is such a huge choice of different phones that you can find one close to the one you'd like. Many people would like a thin high resolution display and don't care about many of the things you care about. They can buy different phones to you. Personally, I agree with your requirements and as a result have settled for the 2GB version of the Moto G (3rd gen) http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g_(3rd…

After Motorola got sold to Lenovo by Google, I have not recieved a single software update for my moto x 2014 Killed the brand in my eyes

Google is no better for their own phones with their 2 year update window.

And good luck if a manufacturer decides to breach contract, e.g. TI, they won't enforce the updates.

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Post by akavi »

Karunamon wrote: post #45

I can't possibly be the only one that laments the fact that all smartphones look basically the same after the iPhone took off. Candybar slates with massive screens and questionable batteries and life. No sliders, no flips, nothing new or interesting in hardware. Now, only featureless slabs with barely a physical button in sight, differentiated more by the images they display on screen and less their components. Event…

Then they become commodities, the price falls to levels we could never imagine now, and use cases open up we could never imagine now.

At the limit: ubiquitous, cheap, smart, connected displays. Seems like it could be pretty cool.

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Post by semi-extrinsic »

inlineint wrote: post #16
kbody wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I'm more function over form so and I can't imagine having a bezel-less phone that won't be a nightmare to use (using one hand).

I think machine learning can be employed to filter out accidental touches from the meaningful ones. It is already done in iPad Pro that allows to use Apple Pencil while holding your hand on the screen, and still detects meaningful touches.

s/machine learning/bunch of if-then-else statements/

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Post by JohnTHaller »

mhurron wrote: post #20
kbody wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I'm more function over form so and I can't imagine having a bezel-less phone that won't be a nightmare to use (using one hand).

First thing I do with any phone is put it in a case. Bezel-less is irrelevant to me, I'm going to put one in place. 'Thinnest phone ever' is similarly meaningless to me for the same reasons. I don't want a phone that feels like I'm going to snap it in half simply by using it.

Except phones without bezels are tough to have a good case for since having a lip around the edge to protect from a screen down drop interferes with touch screen use.
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