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Re: Facebook apologises for removing breast cancer awareness video

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Do you remember the super bowl janet jackson fiasco? There were millions of people outraged by an accident and it almost wrecked her career. It's issue like this that mean that Facebook has to build aggressive adult filters that will have false positives. Because frankly the cost of a false negative is much much bigger than a false positive.

Millions? the FCC said there were 540,000 complaints from Americans[1] of which 65,000 came from the Parents Television Council[2]. The media cared more than the people. Heck, I wonder if we polled on it, how many think MTV's response was the bigger problem. 1) http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/2005-01-20-bowl-cover_x... from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXXVIII_halftime-sh... 2) I'll save my commentar…

I bet more people were offended than just those who filed complaints. So millions seems like a reasonable number.

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As long as they remove breast pictures instead of pictures of beheadings (I complained several times as they appeared in my newsfeed, but they were always deemed as "ok"), our world is not going anywhere in terms of peace.

They do censor pictures of beheadings, even in "private" messages between consenting adults. Or at least they did several years ago.

They allow pictures that are so shocking horrific that one has to vomit.

Re: Facebook apologises for removing breast cancer awareness video

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P0rn is illegal in many countries. Facebook wants to do business in these countries, hence aggressive filtering and minimum liability.

Does Facebook have a representation in those countries? Besides that, we're not talking about porn. Unless you want to see breast cancer videos and mothers feeding their children as porn but that would be a perception error, the label simply does not apply.

Facebook has offices in Dubai, Mumbai, Hyderabad, Singapore. These restrict internet pornography by law; even though much of actual Internet traffic may still be porn, businesses do not wish to associate with it because porn could provide a too convenient legal handle to prosecute representatives or shut down services as a retaliation for publishing things that are e.g. critical of the local government.

Of course we are not talking about porn, but drawing lines in the sand is a murky business.

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The weird thing is I'm around a lot of conservatives in a conservative place in this country, you know, the people who supposedly are the ones getting offended. I haven't found one damn person who thinks Facebook is doing the right thing. I'm really trying to find these offended people, but I cannot. The Vietnam photo censorship was met with quite a bit of confusion since I think most folks misremember it being our h…

Do you remember the super bowl janet jackson fiasco? There were millions of people outraged by an accident and it almost wrecked her career. It's issue like this that mean that Facebook has to build aggressive adult filters that will have false positives. Because frankly the cost of a false negative is much much bigger than a false positive.

I watched that Superbowl half-time show with my two young at the time children. What I remember was that although I barely noticed the one or two seconds of exposed nipple, I was really hoping that I wouldn't have to explain the need for the erectile dysfunction medicine which was being advertised later in the show.

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Just imagine the harm seeing a breast can do to a vulnerable young child. /s Facebook needs to literally grow up, removing porn is one thing but clinical images, mothers feeding their children and such should not even be up for discussion. It's a fine line between protecting your users from seeing offensive content and outright censorship, good to see them doing the right thing in this case, pity it is still on a 'ca…

Puritanism at its worse, also a reflection of upper management attitude I'm sure

Maybe it is just another case of mass hysteria, like the Salem witch trials.

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Good for them. Next: stop the Prager University videos from being suppressed.

I think you're mistaken: it's Google/YouTube that has placed several of the excellent Prager University videos under restricted mode. Not Facebook. I'm not aware of Facebook suppressing the Prager University videos. And in the YouTube case, it's likely an automated response to (mis)flagging by users who politically differ.

Ow! Thank you,judah.

Re: Facebook apologises for removing breast cancer awareness video

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Just imagine the harm seeing a breast can do to a vulnerable young child. /s Facebook needs to literally grow up, removing porn is one thing but clinical images, mothers feeding their children and such should not even be up for discussion. It's a fine line between protecting your users from seeing offensive content and outright censorship, good to see them doing the right thing in this case, pity it is still on a 'ca…

> pity it is still on a 'case-by-case' basis instead of a healthy review of their policies. They reviewed their policies over a year ago and images of breasts are allowed if they're breastfeeding, or after mastectomy (either reconstructed or tattooed or just left) or raising awareness. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/03/16/breastfeeding-fac... https://www.facebook.com/help/340974655932193 https://www.facebook.co…

This. Porn detection algorithms still have a hard time distinguishing educational imagery. It was just an FP.

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Women leaving their faces uncovered is illegal in many countries. This should have zero bearing on what I can do in my own country.

> Women leaving their faces uncovered is illegal in many countries. Which countries?

As far as I know, only Afghanistan during the period of Taliban rule, and Daesh until they decided it was a security risk.

So: none.

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I do agree this is ridiculous and they should be embarrassed about this kind of stuff, but I do want to remind people that Facebook is an advertising product selling "you" to advertisers. They have to please their advertisers, not users. I am glad to see people complaining. I hope people continue to complain and news outlets like this ridicule them, but until we stop giving our information away for free to these corporations, they are going to continue to do immoral and dangerous activities. Facebook is not the problem here. We are!

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I find it surprising that this is newsworthy. It appears that Facebook never argued that the image was in breach of its policies. Just that some software it runs had a bug that miss classified this image. Then when challenged they apologized and approved the add. So to me the summary appears to be "Software company has bug that effected one customer, apologies and fixes the issue" which must happen every hour of ever…

Well, it's Facebook.
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