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Kodak Ektra
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#62Didn't Nokia try this already? I'm pretty sure the camera world has settled into two kinds of cameras: cell phones for people who just need to take a few snaps, and DSLRs for people who need more features than can possibly fit in a cameraphone (flash hotshoe, changeable lenses, larger sensor, etc). DSLRs are cheap enough that cost isn't really an issue. I doubt the results here will be any better than Nokia had.
Maybe, but there are plenty of people with cameras like the RX100.
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#63> Edit photos anywhere with Snapseed™ The "before" and "after" images [0] are completely different photographs! [0]: http://www.kodak.com/KodakGCG/uploadedImages/Consumer/Produc...
It's a continuation of scene. I think they were attempting a panorama where half was "before" and half was after, but the subject and feel of each side of the pano is just so different, that it hardly has a comparison effect! For a true before/after, see these images: http://kp.kinsta.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/before.jpg http://kp.kinsta.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/after.jpg
It looks like mostly local (think sharpening) and global contrast changes, based on the artefacts. In addition tonality changes.
Sharpening effect is very prominent on these examples. Hopefully there is an configuration option for this.
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#64Odd choice for the name, since Kodak also has a color negative film called "Ektar" [0] which is just a single transposition away from this new phone's name. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ektar
How's it odd? It looks like they've already repurposed Ektar once before. Ektra sounds better (to me, anyway) and there's no chance that film purchasers will be confused.
Yes, Ektar used to be their lens brand.
Ran out of words that started with "Eastman Kodak" I guess.
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#65I don't understand... how is this different from any other large-screen Android 6+ device being built right now with a similarly high-res spec camera?
It will be buggy and poorly supported and probably have sub-par QA. Also your friends will laugh at you for buying a Kodak anything.
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#66This is actually an interesting product, but is there a reason they wouldn't make the aperture f/1.8 like the iPhone? I'm not aware if there may be downsides or hardware limitations to that. If cost is the only issue, it would seem worth it if you're making a photography-focused camera just to get as much light as possible into that sensor. Edit: Thanks for the information, fellow HNers :)
A 1/3 stop is ... not much. With different cameras with different lens designs and most importantly different sensors it's unlikely to be a significant contributor to a difference between two products. The difference in transmission between two lenses with one having few (eg 50/1.x) and the other having a lot (eg superzoom) elements can get that large.
This is why cinema lenses report t-stops ('transmission') in addition to f-stops. The t-stops tell you about exposure, and account for losses between surfaces and absorption within the media. The f-stop tells you about depth of field, etc.
With modern lenses, they're usually within a small fraction of a stop, but older lenses could vary by a stop or more. That said, the difference between this camera and an iPhone camera, in terms of relative transmission, is probably negligible.
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#67This is actually an interesting product, but is there a reason they wouldn't make the aperture f/1.8 like the iPhone? I'm not aware if there may be downsides or hardware limitations to that. If cost is the only issue, it would seem worth it if you're making a photography-focused camera just to get as much light as possible into that sensor. Edit: Thanks for the information, fellow HNers :)
A 1/3 stop is ... not much. With different cameras with different lens designs and most importantly different sensors it's unlikely to be a significant contributor to a difference between two products. The difference in transmission between two lenses with one having few (eg 50/1.x) and the other having a lot (eg superzoom) elements can get that large.
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#68Their "Specs" link at the bottom 404s! Ow. Much more info in this blog post: http://www.kodak.com/US/en/Consumer/Press_Center/KODAK_EKTRA... KODAK EKTRA Smartphone key features: * ANDROID 6.0 (Marshmallow) * Professional results from a 21MP fast focus camera sensor with F2.0, PDAF, OIS, Dual LED Flash * 13MP phase detection auto focus front-facing camera with F2.2 PDAF * Helio X20 2.3GHz Decacore processor with 3GB R…
I was pretty interested in this, but $550 seems to steep. What is that price point supposed to compete with? To low for iphone/pixel, too high for many other android phones.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eww that looks like the kind of thing you find in reddit's shitty HDR sub.
Yeah, it's completely backwards. I thought we were past Instagram filters, but now Kodak is trying to build it into their camera?
The after is too sharp, but I don't see a problem with applying filters to a photo. If it gives a nostaligc feel, so what?
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#70Didn't Nokia try this already? I'm pretty sure the camera world has settled into two kinds of cameras: cell phones for people who just need to take a few snaps, and DSLRs for people who need more features than can possibly fit in a cameraphone (flash hotshoe, changeable lenses, larger sensor, etc). DSLRs are cheap enough that cost isn't really an issue. I doubt the results here will be any better than Nokia had.
Maybe, but there are plenty of people with cameras like the RX100.
Was going to say, RX100 is in a class of its own :). I always have it with me when I travel and often have it my pocket just in case. I don't always use it, but it's small enough not to care. Especially for outdoors photography, an RX100 generally takes better pictures than a DSLR, because you're more likely to have it with you when a good picture opportunity arises.