The Dash developer posted his side of the story including a recorded call with Apple: https://blog.kapeli.com/dash-and-apple-my-side-of-the-story
Apple Responds to Dash Controversy
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Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy
#62This is a very weird definition of "proof". A much more accurate headline might be "Apple responds to Dash controversy by insisting they were right all along and refusing to provide proof." Edit: The tone of the entire article rubs me the wrong way; it reads like a press release that nobody could be bothered to re-write. > The integrity of the App Store is as important to Apple as it is to consumers. Citation needed?…
Unfortunately The Loop isn't much of a news site, more of a controlled Apple leak blog. Dalrymple has gotten to the point of being a complete Apple shill. Edit: Compare the tone of the Loop article to Daring Fireballs: http://daringfireball.net/2016/10/apple_dash_controversy Gruber takes a much more unbiased approach, supported well. The Loop article reads like a statement from the Principal read by your teacher.
And here's Kapeli's explanation of what happened:
https://blog.kapeli.com/dash-and-apple-my-side-of-the-story
!!! it includes a recording of a phone call with Apple !!!
Edit: After listening to the first 2 minutes of the call, i can say with absolute confidence that Apple is straight-up blackmailing him. I would love to hear opinions on whether this is something that could be taken to court.
Here's the HN submission of the link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12680597
Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy
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Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately The Loop isn't much of a news site, more of a controlled Apple leak blog. Dalrymple has gotten to the point of being a complete Apple shill. Edit: Compare the tone of the Loop article to Daring Fireballs: http://daringfireball.net/2016/10/apple_dash_controversy Gruber takes a much more unbiased approach, supported well. The Loop article reads like a statement from the Principal read by your teacher.
I'd like to think we can keep personal attacks like this off of HN without some sort of substantiation.
How is this a personal attack? It simply acknowledges that both of these websites are written by individuals. Would the substance of the comment be different had he simply used the website's names?
Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately The Loop isn't much of a news site, more of a controlled Apple leak blog. Dalrymple has gotten to the point of being a complete Apple shill. Edit: Compare the tone of the Loop article to Daring Fireballs: http://daringfireball.net/2016/10/apple_dash_controversy Gruber takes a much more unbiased approach, supported well. The Loop article reads like a statement from the Principal read by your teacher.
And here's Kapeli's explanation of what happened: https://blog.kapeli.com/dash-and-apple-my-side-of-the-story !!! it includes a recording of a phone call with Apple !!! Edit: After listening to the first 2 minutes of the call, i can say with absolute confidence that Apple is straight-up blackmailing him. I would love to hear opinions on whether this is something that could be taken to court. Here's the HN submission…
Gets popcorn
Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy
#66Having dealt with nefarious characters in a pretty active community that was quick to defend their own members (even when they were being very naughty) I'll give my guess as to what's happened, basically assuming good faith in Apple, mainly to counter a lot of the questions here around "what if a competitor bought these..." In cases where Apple is this certain (or seemingly certain) they usually have a smoking gun. T…
I think the difficult part is correctly attributing the behavior to the correct party.
My knee jerk reaction to this article, is that if I were nefarious and I wanted to get a competitor off the appstore, than I would game the review system on their behalf. I didn't look at it too closely, but I think part of it they said was also creating negative reviews for competitors.
Like you said, it depends on the smoking gun or the strength of evidence, but without knowing what criteria Apple uses I think it's difficult to say how prudent they might be.
I of course have no indication that another party is involved in this case, I just imagine that it could, along with any number of other scenarios. Without knowing what evidence or criteria apple uses to make this determination, it's impossible to say as an external observer.
Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy
#67So, in order to punish the developer of an app Apple takes an action that significantly hurts the users of that app.
I know this doesn't treat the totality of what you're saying but in the past (and I assume it to be the case here) if you paid for the app on the app store it'll be available for download even if it's delisted. This was the case with the game Edge when they got targeted by a trademark troll for their name.
Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy
#68Can anyone who bought Dash confirm or deny that you can still access it from the "purchased" tab in the app store? This used to be the behavior for paid apps that were delisted† and I assume it still is.
† I remember it happening for the game Edge when it was taken down due to trademark trolling. It was later reinstated.
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Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy
#70Here's the developer's side of the story (includes a recording of a phone call between him and Apple)