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Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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Bummer. Had Rethink in my list of things to eventually tinker-with. Is it stable where it should still be considered as a viable choice for your tech stack, or is this pretty much a deal-breaker?

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Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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I hope this isn't true. Having worked at/on multiple competitors I have nothing but respect and admiration for the work the RethinkDB team has done to make a great database and development platform. This was real technology! I'm truly sad that the environment is such that great work like this can't continue to be funded. Thanks for showing everyone how to write amazing documentation, caring about the fundamentals, an…

Ever thought what do these salespeople do in a software company? This is what happens when salespeople fail to do enough of their thing. Sales are essential for a for-profit company.

So, maybe we should find a way to develop good technology that doesn't involve for-profit companies?

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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A shame that a company like mongo can exist while a company like rethink folds.

I believe this is because the Node.JS community still recommends MongoDB as the perfect database engine for their projects. There is even a name for their stack — MEAN, MondoDB + Express.JS + Angular.JS + Node.JS — which is kind of ironic because considering the rapid evolution of the JavaScript ecosystem having an acronym like that will make no sense in a couple of months since now people prefer React-like libraries…

Regarding rapid change, I've just come off 90 minutes of troubleshooting, whose end result was "upgrade npm to latest". I've never before used a package manager which had to be so often upgraded to solve issues.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

#65

I'm not familiar with RethinkDB - what was their monetization strategy?

Sell support contracts. Kind of similar to MongoDB's strategy, but they were too late to the party. Also the "support" open source business model doesn't always scale well and works better when the product quality and documentation isn't so first rate (like Rethinkdb's is).

I've always found that to be a perverse incentive model. I don't know how to do any better though. Maybe shaming companies that use OS projects heavily into donating? Not really sure how to scale that either.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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Very sad to know that RethinkDB is shutting down. This was one company that I wanted to see being successful! A great tech team taking on a hard technical problem. Even if they are closing down, I hope they have changed the landscape.

Also having followed Slava for a sometime, nothing but respect and admiration for him!

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who says Mongo won't go eventually as well?

MongoDB is like the Microsoft of operating systems. Well promoted and easy to get going with. Hopefully they use the money they have to rewrite MongoDB to be better.

They largely did with version 3.0 when they switched to Wiredtiger.

https://objectrocket.com/blog/company/mongodb-wiredtiger

It's made a massive difference to performance and stability.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

MongoDB is like the Microsoft of operating systems. Well promoted and easy to get going with. Hopefully they use the money they have to rewrite MongoDB to be better.

Okay...but if Rethink couldn't make their business self-sustaining, why would Mongo when there are a plethora of other open source databases/datastores that can do Mongo's job better than Mongo? EDIT: We'll just wait for Mongo to burn through all their cash then.

MongoDB is killing it in the Big Data space right now with excellent integrations with Spark and Hadoop, strong relationships with Hortonworks and Cloudera and really good enterprise support. I know many Fortune 500 companies and equivalents overseas who are customers.

But please enlighten us poor fools which open source databases can compete with MongoDB in this space. It sure as hell isn't PostgreSQL.

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