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Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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And yet not a single hard detail in the article as to why the headline might be true. For going on ten years we've seen the "iPhone killers" come and go, and this article does nothing to tell me why this time it will be different. Perhaps because it won't be. Of what very few details the article outlines, they just go on about nifty hardware. Have we not learned by now that cool hardware still sucks when hamstrung by…

considering just how small the iphone global market share is, I'm not sure being an iphone killer is even a thing anymore.

I'll just assume you don't live on planet earth in 2016 where iPhone is the top sold model of high-end smartphone basically since it's introduction (because yes the article refer specifically to phones over $400)

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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And yet not a single hard detail in the article as to why the headline might be true. For going on ten years we've seen the "iPhone killers" come and go, and this article does nothing to tell me why this time it will be different. Perhaps because it won't be. Of what very few details the article outlines, they just go on about nifty hardware. Have we not learned by now that cool hardware still sucks when hamstrung by…

Now, Google is no Samsung, but they're a long way from Apple or even Microsoft on the UX front - I disagree. Material ui is an order better then iOS or metro ux. Coming from Android iOS on my iPad felt like a dated os in terms of ui and ux was not that good as well.

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And yet not a single hard detail in the article as to why the headline might be true. For going on ten years we've seen the "iPhone killers" come and go, and this article does nothing to tell me why this time it will be different. Perhaps because it won't be. Of what very few details the article outlines, they just go on about nifty hardware. Have we not learned by now that cool hardware still sucks when hamstrung by…

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Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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And yet not a single hard detail in the article as to why the headline might be true. For going on ten years we've seen the "iPhone killers" come and go, and this article does nothing to tell me why this time it will be different. Perhaps because it won't be. Of what very few details the article outlines, they just go on about nifty hardware. Have we not learned by now that cool hardware still sucks when hamstrung by…

>Now, Google is no Samsung, but they're a long way from Apple or even Microsoft on the UX front. Not sure I agree with this. I've been on android for a while, so I'm sure I'm biased, but stock AOSP Android is pretty much perfect for me. Very minimal and aesthetically beautiful, but still powerful and customizable.

> I've been on android for a while, so I'm sure I'm biased, but stock AOSP Android is pretty much perfect for me. Very minimal and aesthetically beautiful, but still powerful and customizable.

You can get AOSP on a lot of phones, you just have to be comfortable flashing a custom ROM.

I don't understand why anyone would pay iPhone prices for an Android phone. Even if the hardware quality is similar (which it won't be, because Apple SoCs are at least a generation ahead of everyone else) Android app quality is much worse.

I'm saying this as someone who has only ever used Android.

I just can't see the justification to spending this much money on a phone Google will drop support for after 2 years, in addition to never fixing some issues that are present at launch (look up the Nexus 4 camera reset issue, which Google never fixed).

I'm using a Xiaomi Redmi 2 I picked up new from AliExpress for $125 USD with free shipping to Europe, and I'm running Marshmallow via CM. Works perfectly, in fact most of the time it's better than $300-400 phones thanks to not being loaded to the gills with Google Apps crapware (seriously I have no use for Google Play Music, Books, News, etc)

Edit: for people down voting this, could you explain why? I've left my opinion here and if you disagree with it, I'd love to hear why. I don't believe I've stated anything factually incorrect.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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> My only problem with Apple right now is they won't sell me an unlocked iPhone7 Plus Why not just order it from the Apple Online Store?

Not offered there. You have to be a current Verizon, Att, etc. customer (or sign up for new plan). I've tried.

You simply choose your current carrier so they know which brand of SIM to put in afaik. When you get to the final page choose "Pay in full" and you get the unlocked version.

Maybe not the greatest UI decision - but it's hard to imagine someone who isn't already on a carrier.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Apple earns about 94% of the smartphone industry profit with just 14% of the market. It's a thing.

Different business models for different companies.

Pretty sure most companies would aspire to the model where 94% of the rent accrues to you...

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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I'm sorry, I just don't trust Google hardware efforts anymore. Nothing they've done indicates that they won't completely abandon this in a year and a half. It would probably end up in my Google Graveyard sooner rather than later, right next to my Google TV and Galaxy Nexus with Google Voice.

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So will it come with non-removable carrier crapware or not? That's the main selling point of the iphone for me.

nexus phones never did AFAIK

Galaxy Nexus had a bit of VZW bloat, but that was the only one I can remember having any.
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