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Re: New lower Azure pricing

#61

Things like this pricing difference between VM and App Service which run on the same dedicated hardware, not sure why its still 2x the price? http://i.imgur.com/KgNotp6.png

with App Service you're basically paying for a managed server (patched etc.) and a host of capabilities that VMs don't have out of the box (autoscaling, monitoring etc.)

Re: New lower Azure pricing

#62
Does anyone know about Azure auto-scaling? It says "most [VM's] include load-balancing and auto-scaling free of charge", is that true and is it any more friendly to hobbyists than the other two?

It was very disappointing to see the auto-scaling services for GCP and AWS basically require a $20/mo load balancer right off the bat. I have an app that is quietly puttering away on a single Digital Ocean droplet, but could at any moment, uh, make it big and I want to be ready. But I can't really stomach the $20 just to turn on auto-scaling somewhere.

Re: New lower Azure pricing

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post #59

Cloud Pricing is ridiculous ... made the comparison between a dedicated server and cloud offerings of microsoft, google, amazon ... rackspace (SO EXPENSIVE) and you pay 5 times in the cloud for the same.

You're paying people to maintain your machines. You're eliminating the need for your own sys-admins to keep your servers up to date and patched. For small businesses who have no IT staff for instance, this is exactly what you want.

ec2!=heroku

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dedicated scales in a way that cloud cannot: vertically. Want to build a 1TB DDR4 RAM beast with 40 cores? Yeah, you can do that with dedicated.

https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/x1/

Fair enough. I guess its time to whip out the big guns then.

https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/7U/7088/SYS-7088B...

1. Eight socket R1 (LGA 2011) supports Intel® Xeon® processor E7-8800 v4/v3 family (up to 24-Core)

2. Up to 24TB in 192 DDR4 DIMM slots

That's 192 cores / 384 threads with 24TB of DDR4 RAM

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The amount that you can vertically scale with physical servers is far above and beyond what is offered by cloud services. Although I'm impressed that Amazon is now at the 2TB DDR4 RAM level.

Re: New lower Azure pricing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're moving to AWS for our next release, managed by Rackspace. Had the same philosophy as you for years, and have saved a lot of money with DIY (maybe in the tens of thousands). Turns out server admin is not my skillset, and it's caused problems, headaches and risks in the past. I consider the additional cost going forwards in effect as our next hire and an important one. For small startups looking to save money DIY…

You still need a server admin, cloud or not. It's not like there's a magic button in the cloud that replaces an admin.

A good cloud admin can manage far more in less time in the cloud

Re: New lower Azure pricing

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post #31

Cloud providers should make their smallest instances basically free. Bottom end instances/pricing is the drug through which developers become addicted to a platform.

Base AWS and GCE VMs are like $4 a month. Isn't that basically free?

AWS also has a free tier for many services (EC2 included) for the first 12 months of usage. They're well familiar with the "first hit's free" business model...

Re: New lower Azure pricing

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post #30

Cloud Pricing is ridiculous ... made the comparison between a dedicated server and cloud offerings of microsoft, google, amazon ... rackspace (SO EXPENSIVE) and you pay 5 times in the cloud for the same.

Nobody ever got fired for buying cloud

Actually the guy I just replaced did, but that's because he didn't know what he was doing.

Re: New lower Azure pricing

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Cloud Pricing is ridiculous ... made the comparison between a dedicated server and cloud offerings of microsoft, google, amazon ... rackspace (SO EXPENSIVE) and you pay 5 times in the cloud for the same.

Restaurant prices are ridiculous ... made the comparison between groceries and menu offerings of McDonalds, Taco Bell, Burger King ... Olive Garden (SO EXPENSIVE) and you pay 5 times at a restaurant for the same. --- You're not paying for hardware. You're paying for hardware, expertise, services, and convenience. On-prem or colocation may be a good choice. But limiting your comparison to raw computing power mischarac…

Great analogy re: food! I'm going to steal that.
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