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What Founders Ask Founders About Getting into Y Combinator

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Re: What Founders Ask Founders About Getting into Y Combinator

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I'd be happy to. Shall we make it a video call other people can join too? Tomorrow, Saturday, at 11:00 Pacific? I'll be in https://gitlab.zoom.us/j/351494573 at that time for anyone that can discuss their application publicly. If you attend please comment so, if you can't also comment so we can try to find an alternative. By the way, I'm a YC participant and not a YC partner. I don't speak for YC and I'm just trying…

I'm in on this, thanks very much.

Hope to see you in https://gitlab.zoom.us/j/351494573

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I'd be happy to. Shall we make it a video call other people can join too? Tomorrow, Saturday, at 11:00 Pacific? I'll be in https://gitlab.zoom.us/j/351494573 at that time for anyone that can discuss their application publicly. If you attend please comment so, if you can't also comment so we can try to find an alternative. By the way, I'm a YC participant and not a YC partner. I don't speak for YC and I'm just trying…

We will be there as SalesLoggr,we are sending our application to the email address on the comment above thanks for doing this

Hope to see you in https://gitlab.zoom.us/j/351494573 right now

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Sid, willing to meet with us too? It'd be very appreciated! (I totally understand you can't do this for everyone who'll ask.) P.S. I'm also open to a peer feedback session for anyone else applying!

I'd be happy to. Shall we make it a video call other people can join too? Tomorrow, Saturday, at 11:00 Pacific? I'll be in https://gitlab.zoom.us/j/351494573 at that time for anyone that can discuss their application publicly. If you attend please comment so, if you can't also comment so we can try to find an alternative. By the way, I'm a YC participant and not a YC partner. I don't speak for YC and I'm just trying…

Just tried to jump on. Host was not on. Will try again. Thanks so much for this. Super helpful.

Re: What Founders Ask Founders About Getting into Y Combinator

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Thanks! We never had second thoughts about YC. We did talk a lot during YC if we wanted to take outside investment. If you take investment you need to work to a liquidity event (acquisition or IPO). Since we would like to stay independent the only option is an IPO. Not many companies make make that. But we also wanted to make GitLab a great and popular solution. For this we need the best marketing and sales people. W…

I'm very curious about the part where prospective employees wanted options, implying you need a liquidity event anyway. Aren't there other models for that? For instance, a partnership track setup, or paying dividends on shares, or some other sort of revenue sharing? Equity in profitable privately owned bootstrapped companies must be valuable, or there would be no incentive for the founders of such companies, so why n…

Great question, I'm sure there are multiple models possible. One complication is that our priority for next few years is to grow as fast as possible. This means that you're not making a profit but investing back in more growth.

Since we took outside investment that period is about 5 years. Without outside investment it will take longer, maybe 10 years. Many potential hires don't want to wait that long. They might wait 10 years but only if you get a substantial windfall at that point, not the first small profit share.

Partnerships are more common at consultancy and finance firms where labour generates direct profits. I think they are less suited for product firms where the labour comes years ahead of the revenue. A liquidity event is a great way to bring the 'windfall' forward.

Of course things are not black and white. We choose a 4 year vesting period https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/stock-options There are startups now doing 6, 8, and 10 years. We didn't have a good reason to deviate from the norm, so with our vesting time we stuck to what is usual in order to be an attractive employer and hire the best executives.

Re: What Founders Ask Founders About Getting into Y Combinator

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We will be there as SalesLoggr,we are sending our application to the email address on the comment above thanks for doing this

Awesome, see you there.

Hi we have been waiting with Glenn and Jay on this link

https://gitlab.zoom.us/j/351494573

Re: What Founders Ask Founders About Getting into Y Combinator

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Awesome, see you there.

Hi we have been waiting with Glenn and Jay on this link https://gitlab.zoom.us/j/351494573

I waited for 10 minutes but everyone was late or the conference call wasn't set up correctly, I'm back now.

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I'm waiting for you in https://gitlab.zoom.us/j/351494573

I'm seeing "Please wait for the host to start this meeting"

I waited for 10 minutes but everyone was late or I didn't allow for people to join, I'm back now.

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Hi we have been waiting with Glenn and Jay on this link https://gitlab.zoom.us/j/351494573

I waited for 10 minutes but everyone was late or the conference call wasn't set up correctly, I'm back now.

I'm glad that we ended up talking to each other eventually. Sales loggr looks great. I hope you make it in.

Re: What Founders Ask Founders About Getting into Y Combinator

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I'm very curious about the part where prospective employees wanted options, implying you need a liquidity event anyway. Aren't there other models for that? For instance, a partnership track setup, or paying dividends on shares, or some other sort of revenue sharing? Equity in profitable privately owned bootstrapped companies must be valuable, or there would be no incentive for the founders of such companies, so why n…

Great question, I'm sure there are multiple models possible. One complication is that our priority for next few years is to grow as fast as possible. This means that you're not making a profit but investing back in more growth. Since we took outside investment that period is about 5 years. Without outside investment it will take longer, maybe 10 years. Many potential hires don't want to wait that long. They might wai…

Thanks for the answer! This is all great food for thought.
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