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Vector is now called Riot

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Re: Vector is now called Riot

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Post by twothamendment »

wmccullough wrote: post #40

I have to say, if I was ever launching a product, I'd never even put a link for my product here. Many people in this thread are acting like overgrown toddlers. Also, why is that some poor girl or guy can't use HN to link to a product without ten million of these: "This is neat, but have you heard of my best friends app that does this already!?? links to Github "

Yes, but for every comment poking fun at or linking to some lame repo, there are how many of us who just check it out? The visibility on HN is pretty good. If I had a product like this I'd shout it out here. Sure there are some comments to ignore, but the exposure is good and someone will have a good question, somewhere. I hope.

Re: Vector is now called Riot

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Post by vertex-four »

pomfpomfpomf3 wrote: post #59

Vector (+Matrix) is kinda like self-hosted slack/discord with proper history sync across all your devices, file uploads, nice UI, etc. It's really good. I recommended it to 7 people and every single one liked it, even got 5 of them to set up their own federated homeservers. We're thinking about moving a ~60-people skype group there as well. Only issue I had is Synapse hogging the CPU and getting laggy with a large ro…

Synapse does calm down once it's sorted everything out, luckily.

Re: Vector is now called Riot

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Post by eyelidlessness »

qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #51
eyelidlessness wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if you lose people with information higher in the hierarchy, it doesn't matter what you say after.

Good point. So reorganize the page a bit?

I don't know, honestly I left the page baffled as to what it even is. (I got a better idea from a link to the demo posted here on HN.)

It could benefit from focusing on:

1. Why is this thing for me? 2. What is this thing and how does it address #1?

Both of those, if possible, should be answered in 1-3 short sentences, above the fold.

Re: Vector is now called Riot

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Post by amandine »

pomfpomfpomf3 wrote: post #59

Vector (+Matrix) is kinda like self-hosted slack/discord with proper history sync across all your devices, file uploads, nice UI, etc. It's really good. I recommended it to 7 people and every single one liked it, even got 5 of them to set up their own federated homeservers. We're thinking about moving a ~60-people skype group there as well. Only issue I had is Synapse hogging the CPU and getting laggy with a large ro…

Synapse 0.18.0 has just been released, might worth giving it a try as it improves things a bit.

Thanks for the support :)

Re: Vector is now called Riot

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Post by x1798DE »

lotyrin wrote: post #58

Did they search for "Riot chat" first? There's another software company named Riot that currently dominates results there despite chat being auxiliary in their products. Hopefully they can shift that in their favor.

It seems like an improvement over "Vector", which is essentially un-googleable, but seriously, this trend in giving projects single common english word names is really annoying.

Re: Vector is now called Riot

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Post by detaro »

amandine wrote: post #9
qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #2

that... is a way less appropriate name. But it works, I guess.

How so less appropriate? Lack of link to Matrix? Going out of beta we had to decide on something which was really carrying what the app is, we loved Vector but it has always been a code-name and a nice pun on Matrix :) Riot is more representative of what the app can do and its ambitions! Break the barriers between apps, give the control back to the user to choose their client, if they want to encrypt, host themselves…

Less of a link to Matrix, which many of the initial adopters probably would get.

it doesn't feel to me as a stronger brand later (both are fairly random words for many people if you don't look at an explanation)

violent connotation (CNN headline: "protesters organised using the encrypted Riot app").

potential confusion in tech-y circles with Riot the gaming company (which could totally be in the market to offer a messenger, given that they run one of the biggest online games), for Vector I didn't have any other project in mind.

In the end it's just a name and it won't make or break the app for me, but I personally don't see the benefit of the new one.

Re: Vector is now called Riot

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Post by xemdetia »

lotyrin wrote: post #58

Did they search for "Riot chat" first? There's another software company named Riot that currently dominates results there despite chat being auxiliary in their products. Hopefully they can shift that in their favor.

That is still going to be an impossible cliff to climb, they could just be washed out of search results from topical events of actual riots. Hopefully there is a plan attached to this, but it is hard to say because Vector was no better a name to start with (also gets washed out by programming documentation and cutlery sellers).

Re: Vector is now called Riot

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Post by kuschku »

pomfpomfpomf3 wrote: post #59

Vector (+Matrix) is kinda like self-hosted slack/discord with proper history sync across all your devices, file uploads, nice UI, etc. It's really good. I recommended it to 7 people and every single one liked it, even got 5 of them to set up their own federated homeservers. We're thinking about moving a ~60-people skype group there as well. Only issue I had is Synapse hogging the CPU and getting laggy with a large ro…

Or you could just use IRC with quassel + quassel-webserver, and get basically all of the same, but with an actual open protocol. Which actually has support.
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