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Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

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Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

#61
post #4

What's new? I haven't been following bootstrap 4, ( especially since I switched to http://semantic-ui.com/ ). * I see a list of themes priced at 100$ :/ (maybe that's a good thing?) * "Moved from Less to Sass". OK, that's a late addition but always welcomed. (Although there was already an unofficial sass version of bootstrap.) * "Opt-in flexbox support is here". Why would flexbox not be opt-out? * "giving you more op…

How is that a good thing (sass)? That means that instead of having a full JS build now they need Ruby too...

https://github.com/medialize/sass.js

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

#62
post #4

What's new? I haven't been following bootstrap 4, ( especially since I switched to http://semantic-ui.com/ ). * I see a list of themes priced at 100$ :/ (maybe that's a good thing?) * "Moved from Less to Sass". OK, that's a late addition but always welcomed. (Although there was already an unofficial sass version of bootstrap.) * "Opt-in flexbox support is here". Why would flexbox not be opt-out? * "giving you more op…

How is that a good thing (sass)? That means that instead of having a full JS build now they need Ruby too...

According to http://blog.sass-lang.com/posts/809572-sass-35-release-candi... the C++ based libsass is almost 100% compatible with Ruby Sass.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

#63
post #23

It's said Bootstrap5 will possible use postcss, which is great. Hope this can be released soon, I honestly feel tired waiting for Angular2 and Bootstrap4 and I began to use something else instead(vuejs that is, stuck with Bootstrap3)

Bootstrap 3 was released 3 years ago and the 4 has been on beta for 1 year now, so Bootstrap 5 will probably use something newer than postcss.

Version 4 was in development for a year when the first alpha was released, and now a year later they've released the fourth alpha version. It's not at beta yet.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

#64
post #4

What's new? I haven't been following bootstrap 4, ( especially since I switched to http://semantic-ui.com/ ). * I see a list of themes priced at 100$ :/ (maybe that's a good thing?) * "Moved from Less to Sass". OK, that's a late addition but always welcomed. (Although there was already an unofficial sass version of bootstrap.) * "Opt-in flexbox support is here". Why would flexbox not be opt-out? * "giving you more op…

Why not just use something like Susy? I can't stand these grids unless I'm quickly trying to prototype something.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

#65

What CSS framework is recommend these days if you can afford being flexbox only?

What for do you need a framework? For buttons? For the grid? You most likely have to adjust them anyways, so why not make a clean approach without the bloat (in a sense of coding style [I'm very much into BEM]) of a framework?

I wouldn't have a clue where to start. Far easier just to grab a pre-made framework like this.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

#66

We've been using maximum of 1140px col-xl width since 1920x1080 was considered the bleeding edge, but now monitors with 2560x1440 resolution are becoming more common- where 1140 barely covers half the width of the screen . Isn't about time we had a grid container that fixed this?

A page that wide doesn't sound very practical unless you want lots and lots of columns. I was taught that an average 10 words per line is best for reading.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

#67

Has bootstrap been this slow to roll out future versions before? Feels like the main contributors are losing interesting/available time? (releases: https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/releases )

I seen an issue on github[0] which mentions that a lot of development time is still spent on version 3, which is slowing down progress on version 4. I suppose future versions might take longer to roll out if they're supporting the previous version at the same time.

0: https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/issues/20631

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

#68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> newer browsers will start to break on bootstrap3 Is that a common thing for browsers to break on older, previously compatible CSS?

As has been repeated many times here. Bootstrap has javascript as well as CSS.

So same question then -- previously compatible javascript breaking in newer browsers is a thing? Are there some common examples of this (e.g. not just edge cases).

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

#69
post #53
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So based on their github and some searching with google, historically they didn't have much of an end-of-life policy, because there were no bugfix releases for v1.x.x after v2 came out, and no bugfix releases for v2.x.x after v3 came out: v3.0.0 - 2013-08-19 v3.0.0 RC1 - 2013-07-27 v2.3.2 - 2013-07-27 v2.3.1 - 2013-03-01 v2.0.0 - 2012-01-31 v1.4.0 - 2011-11-03 v1.3.0 - 2011-09-16 With major version 4 still being in a…

They mention in the original alpha release article this was a mistake. They plan on supporting and bug fixing for the foreseeable future with bootstrap3 http://blog.getbootstrap.com/2015/08/19/bootstrap-4-alpha/

An update over the course of the previous 19 hours [1][2]; apparently that foreseeable future ended 10 hours after you posted this excellent reminder. They have begun closing [3] all outstanding github issues for v3 with the text:

  Bootstrap 3 is no longer being officially developed
  or supported.

  All work has moved onto our next major release, v4.
  As such, this issue or pull request is being closed
  as a "won't fix." For additional help and support,
  we recommend utilizing our community resources.
  Thanks for your understanding, and see you on the
  other side of v4!

  
[1] https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/issues/20631

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12435425

[3] https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/issues/16913

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

#70
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is that a good thing (sass)? That means that instead of having a full JS build now they need Ruby too...

According to http://blog.sass-lang.com/posts/809572-sass-35-release-candi... the C++ based libsass is almost 100% compatible with Ruby Sass.

Yes, but it's still a painful native dependency in the otherwise Node-based build process. Native dependencies are getting better in Node, but still have many painful edge cases.
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