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Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London

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Re: Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London

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There is. It's full. (Most of the towns in the southeast of England are dominated by commuters to London)

What about the other directions? How many people commute from Birmingham, for example? It's only 126 miles away? That's a 30 commute sometime this century. It's really just a question of when.

Well it'll be 49 minutes in 2026 if HS2 goes ahead. (Waste of money though if you ask me.)

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The Onion proves itself prescient yet again: http://www.theonion.com/article/report-nations-gentrified-ne...

nottheonion: http://i.imgur.com/jb61R2B.jpg

i need to quote your link so nobody misses this gem:

> ...many Palo Altans said the project was too big and moving too fast. "It just seems to me that a billionaire can come in and get whatever he wants and run roughshod over average millionaires like myself," said Crescent Park Neighborhood Assocition presi...

Re: Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London

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In DC, there's a big glut in foreign capital flowing in from foreign oligarchs and elites, particularly from Russia and China. Residential properties in so-called "safe cities" are both a form of investment and a potential life-raft should the political situation change in their nations.In addition to the artificially low supply created by extreme height limitations, this has caused prices to skyrocket. The apartment…

I feel like there is a massive opportunity to be had here from managing and renting out these places.

There's a better opportunity in buying rundown/condemned places and selling them for 4-6x to overseas money who apparently don't look before buying. See "crackshackormansion" below - everything that's not a mansion is just begging to be flipped.

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Why do you think they're crappy? I'm not sure what the price range under discussion is, but here are a few from Mayfair. £11M, seems fancy: http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/40591729 This one seems to be in a new building, £32M: https://www.onthemarket.com/details/2192886/ (home automation, panic room, aquarium etc; would suit criminal mastermind...) This is much cheaper, £2.6M: http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sal…

Sorry for the flash. http://www.crackshackormansion.com/index.html

$1M Canadian is less than £600,000 — that's at least an order of magnitude less than the properties the article will be about. Try a search like [0]. Notice that ⅓ of the properties cost more than £6,000,000! Only 4 (2½%) cost less than $1M.

I didn't give this link before as there are no pictures, but the first hit from my previous search was this one — £60M, marble throughout and a swimming pool: http://www.primelocation.com/for-sale/details/41341420

[0] http://www.nestoria.co.uk/knightsbridge/property/buy

Re: Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London

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The Onion proves itself prescient yet again: http://www.theonion.com/article/report-nations-gentrified-ne...

nottheonion: http://i.imgur.com/jb61R2B.jpg

What paper is this? Is it available online? I hope you framed that.

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Not sure if you are being sarcastic. The buyers driving up prices don't live in London. From the article: "Today, 60 percent of properties for sale in this part of London go to international buyers."

Can't we solve this problem with virtualization? Build houses in the middle of nowhere, but assign a central London address.

People are paying for the location not a "brand".

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I walked from Kings Cross to Marylebone at dusk recently - half way, I took the road up from the main Euston Road - walking through mostly residential - barely an apartment window with a light on - it's just money parked in property - the parks don't have kids playing in them any more

The recent Vancouver tax changes have worked, I suspect/hope we'll start seeing that repeated in every city thats had it's life sucked out

Re: Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London

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They don't want to make a few percent on their capital?

People who can afford to buy overseas property for cash "just in case" are probably not worried about making an extra $3k/month, not if it adds the headache of being a landlord.

Note that £20-45k/month (US$25-60k/month) is more like the going rate for these properties.

http://www.nestoria.co.uk/mayfair/property/rent/2?price_min=...

But either the owner isn't interested in the money/hassle/attention, or occasionally uses the property — it's difficult to show off your fancy London apartment if people are living in it, and you can't casually lend it to friends or relatives.

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Vancouver recently enacted an anti foreign buyer tax that seems to have almost completely stopped the practice. Curious if we will start to see more and more of this local protionism.

Unless every desirable city introduces this tax uniformly, doesn't this just shift the burden from Vancouver onto other cities?

Yes. Assuming the tax actually works as expected (it's probably too soon to tell now), the burden will be shifted onto other cities that are too stupid or dysfunctional to enact the same tax.

I don't see a problem here. The problem will correct itself eventually, with regular citydwellers all moving to cities smart enough to enact these laws, and abandoning cities like London that become completely unaffordable. Eventually the latter cities will collapse, and these wealthy foreigners' properties will be worthless, like all the $100 houses in Detroit.

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