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Re: Ardour 5 released

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Post by polotics »

jdietrich wrote: post #15
roel_v wrote: post #4

Is there anyone on here who uses DAW's seriously, and has tried Ardour? Can it compete with the big boys?

I'd say that it's competitive with older versions of the major DAWs. It's reasonably stable and has a reasonably complete feature set. The problem for Ardour on Linux is the plugin ecosystem. Any serious DAW user has invested thousands of dollars in plugins, none of which will run on Linux. For Linux to be a serious platform for audio work, it needs much more than just a DAW; it needs samplers, synths, reverbs, dynam…

I would say that with Ardour on Linux, the lack of plugins will allow you to jump straight up to hardware synths and effects. The big boys are not using very much in the way of plugin synths, there are a few good plugins but they are at the price of hardware. Unless you intend to do your own mastering (don't) you're good to go with Ardour and a good analog mixing board plus a compatible high-quality DAC/ADC (if you're like me, an Apogee ONE is all you need).

Re: Ardour 5 released

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Post by dawhead »

polotics wrote: post #61
jdietrich wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say that it's competitive with older versions of the major DAWs. It's reasonably stable and has a reasonably complete feature set. The problem for Ardour on Linux is the plugin ecosystem. Any serious DAW user has invested thousands of dollars in plugins, none of which will run on Linux. For Linux to be a serious platform for audio work, it needs much more than just a DAW; it needs samplers, synths, reverbs, dynam…

I would say that with Ardour on Linux, the lack of plugins will allow you to jump straight up to hardware synths and effects. The big boys are not using very much in the way of plugin synths, there are a few good plugins but they are at the price of hardware. Unless you intend to do your own mastering (don't) you're good to go with Ardour and a good analog mixing board plus a compatible high-quality DAC/ADC (if you'r…

That's actually not true. The "big boys" use tons of plugin synths. Hans Zimmer comes to mind (the entire soundtrack to Nolan's Batman series was done with U-he's Zebra2, which is an amazing synth).

What you tend not to see are large-scale touring bands playing live with plugin synths. This is mostly from fear - that something will crash. There are gazillion of smaller bands performing live with Ableton Live and its own plugins, along with 3rd party engines.

Re: Ardour 5 released

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Post by dawhead »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #60
dawhead wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for digging up that link. I had forgotten I wrote that. Things have been better since it was written, but the project could still really use at least another 1/2 full time developer (it could use 50 more, but hey ...) let alone someone to do web stuff rather than me.

What sort of web stuff? Just website management, or design, or backend, or social media, ... or all of the above?

all of the above.

Re: Ardour 5 released

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Post by metakeule »

dawhead wrote: post #55
SwellJoe wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been trying to use it off and on from the very beginning of its development. And, I've been a subscribing contributor off and on for a long time, too. I say "trying to use it" not so much because Ardour is inferior to other DAWs; it isn't. It's pretty solid, pretty capable, and pretty fast, compared to all the big ones (and I've used many of them in a professional and hobbyist context). It is a great piece of so…

The purely technical aspects of audio on Linux have always been better than Windows and OS X. Linux had lower latency than them more than a decade ago. The user experience is a different story. That's the result of choices made by Linux distributions, most of which can be avoided by picking the right distribution or by doing some work. The biggest issue is the decision made some years (partly at my suggestion, ironic…

I am using the latest AVLinux with the latest Ardour on a machine dedicated to Linux-Audio. I get lots of dropouts/xruns, crashes in Ardour etc. MuSE not running properly at all (losing connection to jack). The only things running reliable are Renoise, Tracktion, MuseScore and SuperCollider and only if I don't use jack, but just alsa exclusively. Been very disappointed with Ardour. Always crashing with demanding plugins (e.g. drumgizmo), with "kind of" video support etc. Also disfunctional in some areas like Midi-Editing, CD-Cue-Export, layered Midi-recording. User interface too complicated and obscured. Hate to say it, but I considered dealing with Ardour to be a waste of time.

Re: Ardour 5 released

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Post by dawhead »

nomanisanisland wrote: post #37
dawhead wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ardour has builtin support for many hardware controllers. Our support for Mackie Control is as good as anything in the proprietary world, ditto for things like the FaderPort. Generic MIDI controllers can have MIDI maps, and we have at least a dozen predefined ones already. Ardour 5.1 will also see support for the Ableton Push 2 device. Popularity: right now, someone starts a bundle of Ardour obtained from ardour.org…

>Ardour 5.1 will also see support for the Ableton Push 2 device. that's goddamn great. Keep up the awesome work, this program is a masterpiece

In the interest of truth-in-comment-threads, it looks as if 5.1 will be a bug fix release, without the Push 2 support. That will land in 5.2, probably. The majority of the work is done, but I want it more polished before releasing it.
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