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Re: Cat People vs. Dog People

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Here is Australia, I don't like cats because they kill the native wildlife. They're a pest. I have also seen what cats can do after travelling to some Greek islands. Almost zero wildlife on lands. No prevelance of birds. You wake up to silence. For this reason, I'll always be a dog person.

Dogs can get after the wildlife too, although they aren't quite as relentless and psychopathic.

My cattle dog was moling yesterday - I looked up from my lawn chair to hear frantic chittering and see the poor varmint whipped high in the sky.

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I used to love dogs when I was a kid, now I'm definitely a cat person. I find dogs superficial and too simple-minded. If you feed them often enough, they will like you (guaranteed) - I find this kind of relationship unsatisfying - You are the master and so the dog has no choice but to like you. Kind of like how people are inclined to laugh when their boss makes a not-so-funny joke - That's the kind of dynamic you get…

> ...and the cat doesn't really NEED me Until you stop feeding your cat. Then it will eventually die of starvation. Unless it's an outdoor cat (or has access to the outdoors), then it can catch it's own food, but will most likely be killed (outdoor cats generally don't live as long as indoor cats).

> Unless it's an outdoor cat

Well, yes, if you contain any living thing and then don't provide a food source, it will die of starvation.

Re: Cat People vs. Dog People

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post #59

Here is Australia, I don't like cats because they kill the native wildlife. They're a pest. I have also seen what cats can do after travelling to some Greek islands. Almost zero wildlife on lands. No prevelance of birds. You wake up to silence. For this reason, I'll always be a dog person.

I always think it's funny when citydwellers in Australia make this complaint. Somehow cats killing the native wildlife is a reason not to have them in suburbia, but no-one bats an eye at all the McMansions and asphalt everywhere destroying the previously native flora and fauna.

Also, the last house I lived in had a bloody wattlebird nearby. I'd much rather a cat eat it and wake up to silence than wake up to that thing at 4am every morning...

Re: Cat People vs. Dog People

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I wonder how much of this is an introvert/extravert thing? I mean, the article already points out that dog people will likely have more friends and cat people are more likely to be single, so I suspect the difference in preferences may depend on that aspect of someone's personality. Cats are perfect for introverts; they look after themselves, don't tend to do much in the day, don't need walks and hence can be mostly…

I think this is the right track, but perhaps not intro/extro, and simply what people want from a pet. Want a constant companion? Get a dog. Want another thing sharing the space, that can look after itself? Get a cat. Want something pretty to look at that knows it's place? Get a fish...

Re: Cat People vs. Dog People

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I like dogs.

I like cats.

I'm just very allergic to cats. It has seriously been a barrier to whom I hang around with. The allergy is genetic. My father had a worse allergic reaction than myself.

My father found a person he liked enough to try to find a work around. This was quite a milestone for my dad. Growing up, my father was just a rigid guy. There were no "work arounds"

Well, when his girlfriend came over he had a separate set of clothes she would put on--free of cat allergens. Even with that preparation he ended up in the emergency room three times. I was there once when he had an Asthma attack. I used two epi pens, and he still couldn't breath.

A cat tried to be friends with me last summer. I was working on my transmission at 1 a.m.. This little cat started to meow behind my head. He actually startled me. Well I got up, and checked for a collar. No collar. He followed me around the house for the following week. What ever chore I did, he was there. For weeks he would show up at the door with a mouse in his mouth. "I brought dinner." The mice were usually alive, but in shock. I would let them loose on my Lawyers property. This cat wanted a new home so bad, he would climb up the side of the house and peer into Windows. I'm still not sure how he got so high.

Just when I decided he could live in the garage, he showed up one night with a collar, and a number. I called the number, and the owner said when they got a puppy a few years ago; he decided to look for a new home. The owner said he would be gone for a week at a time, but always came home.

This cat still visits a least once a month. He usually takes a nap, and leaves.

Re: Cat People vs. Dog People

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I used to love dogs when I was a kid, now I'm definitely a cat person. I find dogs superficial and too simple-minded. If you feed them often enough, they will like you (guaranteed) - I find this kind of relationship unsatisfying - You are the master and so the dog has no choice but to like you. Kind of like how people are inclined to laugh when their boss makes a not-so-funny joke - That's the kind of dynamic you get…

Most [all?] cultures agree. "Dog" is an insult across many languages, which indicates it's lower status. Never heard of "cat" being a standalone insult.

Because a dog has been a part of the human social hierarchy in many cultures. Calling someone a dog alludes to various social characteristics. Calling somebody a cat is just non-sensical.

I suppose there could have been cultures where a cat occupied a place in the day-to-day social hierarchy (and not just in a religious sense). But if so that sense has been lost to us. For obvious reasons I wouldn't expect such a relationship to have been anywhere near as pervasive as with dogs.

Re: Cat People vs. Dog People

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post #52

I wonder how much of this is an introvert/extravert thing? I mean, the article already points out that dog people will likely have more friends and cat people are more likely to be single, so I suspect the difference in preferences may depend on that aspect of someone's personality. Cats are perfect for introverts; they look after themselves, don't tend to do much in the day, don't need walks and hence can be mostly…

I'm very much an introvert but I love my dog, and absolutely am not a cat person.

Re: Cat People vs. Dog People

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post #59

Here is Australia, I don't like cats because they kill the native wildlife. They're a pest. I have also seen what cats can do after travelling to some Greek islands. Almost zero wildlife on lands. No prevelance of birds. You wake up to silence. For this reason, I'll always be a dog person.

Here in New Zealand feral cats are also the wrong animal in the wrong place. They decimate the local birds and fauna. We spend quite a bit of time trying to trap them though they are extraordinarily wily and hard to catch.

Dogs are even more destructive but they don't go feral, so you won't find them in remote places but always somewhere around their neglectful owners or feeders.

Re: Cat People vs. Dog People

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post #54
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course not (which I indicated fairly clearly too). To make a fair comparison you want to consider what kind of a feeling or connotation "You're a dog" vs "You're a cat" invokes. Variations on the sentence are okay too, like, say "You're such a dog" or "Come here dog". I didn't contest 'gata', gender specificity does make it non-ideal, but I'll take it.

By "gender specificity", do you mean the word itself, or the people targeted by the insult? Using the word "gato" to describe a woman would be nonsensical, and I don't think that a word predominantly being used to insult only one gender (such as "bastard") makes it any less of an insult.

Just the fact that it's conjugated. And the female gendering of a word often having a diminutive effect in languages too. All in all it does seem fair (and suprising to me) given how similar the female form is, google says French has the same thing too. But yea, ideally you'd want the standard form being negative. Or both the male and female being negative.

As a side note - I've particularly become interested in the negativity of "dog" after trying to trace the origin of the proverb "The Dogs Bark but the Caravan Moves On", which is pretty common in my language (not common in English). Was surprised to find out it originated in Arabic and found it's way to many other languages.

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