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Peter Thiel’s Embrace of Trump Has Silicon Valley Squirming

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Re: Peter Thiel’s Embrace of Trump Has Silicon Valley Squirming

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Post by davidw »

dforrestwilson wrote: post #22
partisan wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other clowns who ran for the Libertarian party nomination make it really hard to take Gary Johnson seriously. That he is their candidate really just says he meets the very, very low bar that was set by the other candidates.

A two-time governor running with another two-time governor as his VP? Both former Republicans overwhelmingly re-elected in Democratic states? Both fiscally conservative and socially liberal? I take that pretty seriously.

He seems like a better guy than Trump for sure in that he has actual experience in government.

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Post by harryh »

anonymousguy wrote: post #49
harryh wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perot got 18.9% of the popular vote in 1992. Gonna be tough to beat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_ele...

He is at 13% now and needs only to be at 15% to enter the national spotlight of increased media coverage and access to the general debates. His polling numbers are increasing with a notable momentum as general support of the Republican candidate and Democratic candidate are both at all time lows. As long as the majority of voters think of Trump as a broke racist narcissist and Clinton as an apathetic or unethical eli…

13% huh? That's a bit better than I thought. Definitely sounds like he has a shot of making it to 15%. I'm all for it. I'd love to have him in the debates. I really liked this ad they made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHEpTh3kqR8

Re: Peter Thiel’s Embrace of Trump Has Silicon Valley Squirming

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Post by seany »

pbreit wrote: post #47
oh_sigh wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Examples? Should be pretty easy to find if it is an "extensive history"

The Wall? Anti-trade? Believes judges with Muslim or Mexican heritage are incapable of being fair?

Only the last of those options is really racist imho, but even then it's one of those issues that _might_ have a smidgen of truth in it.

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Post by Uhhrrr »

partisan wrote: post #17
anonymousguy wrote: post #5

The Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson might set a record this year for highest votes attained by a third party candidate.

The other clowns who ran for the Libertarian party nomination make it really hard to take Gary Johnson seriously. That he is their candidate really just says he meets the very, very low bar that was set by the other candidates.

Both he and his running mate (Bill Weld) are 2-term governors. I don't know why their primary opponents McAfee or Petersen would detract from that. Are you under the impression that they chose their opponents?

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Post by pbreit »

wturner wrote: post #9

From Peter Thiels perspective its a smart move because he's the only one willing to do something this crazy. This gives him a "monopoly" (as he likes to say) on political access as it relates to the tech world if Trump wins. In short it looks like a bet. Personally I find Trump an archetype of everything I'm trying to get away from in life.... but that is not the point. Also this is just my opinion and maybe their is…

Yep, it's pretty much the supreme contrarian move which as you say, if he's right, gives him a virtually monopoly.

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Post by sevenless »

oh_sigh wrote: post #43
spraak wrote: post #15

> After that, he suggested, things went south because, among other things, women were given the right to vote. Wow, does Peter Thiel really think that women shouldn't be allowed to vote?

That doesn't necessarily follow, but I'm curious to hear the answer. You can think people should be allowed to do something, but that them doing that thing is harmful. For example, look at all the people that lamented the fact that plebs voted for Brexit. A lot of anti-democracy talk around the time of that vote.

There's nothing necessarily good about democracy. A majority voting for something doesn't make the outcome legitimate or good. You could ask gay people in California about that.

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Post by patrickburke »

carsongross wrote: post #4

There are quite a few Trump supporters in the Valley, but they simply stay quiet because they will get 'racist' yelled at them and it will potentially hurt their careers.

The narrative in this country is people who dont agree with the liberal establishment are mentally ill in the form of racism, sexism, etc. This is the level of political discourse we put up with.

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Post by crispyambulance »

goodcitizen147 wrote: post #13

> Mr. Thiel will have a direct line to a chief executive who hints at a penchant for making big things happen for his supporters. Look at this masterfully subtle insinuation that Trump will be corrupt. The NY Times never fails to impress. > This year there was an opportunity for a Republican to make overtures to tech — but with Mr. Trump, that chance seems to have passed. >[...] >it almost seems like he’s gone out of…

Well, it is not surprising why Thiel supports Trump: SELF INTEREST. It _has_ to be.

Thiel seems like a remarkably smart guy who would never fall for the fool BS coming out "The Donald's" mouth. He must be in it for the influence he can leverage out of the orangutan-man from being a delegate, an influential SV player and and sizable donor.

What will really be interesting is the (what I expect to be) PURE pandering baloney he gives during his speech at the RNC. Obviously, he can't just say "the real reason" he supports Trump.

Pass the popcorn, its going to be interesting.

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Post by noobermin »

3princip wrote: post #59
carsongross wrote: post #4

There are quite a few Trump supporters in the Valley, but they simply stay quiet because they will get 'racist' yelled at them and it will potentially hurt their careers.

Ones career being affected by a political opinion is very dangerous, especially since the goal-posts are constantly being moved by the thought-police. It's understandable how political opinions can affect how we view our peers, sometimes I question how a rational person could, for example, vote for Hillary Clinton. That does not change that persons professional proficiency nor would I hinder their career in any way b…

>It's understandable how political opinions can affect how we view our peers[...]

That's how it happens. Even if you try to be impartial, it's hard to give someone the same respect and give them as much of a chance after they have a differing opinion from you. Not that you shouldn't try, but it's difficult.

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