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If you want to resist mass surveillance this is not a good solution.
Reasons from not enabling it by default by @alexstamos (CSO @ Facebook): - FBM is multi-device, and we'd like to see E2E usability improve to support this. For now, pick one device and keys never leave it - Secret conversations don't currently support popular features like searching message history, switching devices, voice/video, etc - Hundreds of millions use Messenger from a web browser. No secure way to verify co…
"End-To-End Encrypted ‘Secret Conversations’" in software that is ordinarily used to harvest electronic phone books and rummage through user photos, from a company that made its whole fortune trying to obliterate privacy as a part of human culture? It's going to be pretty high standards of proof to give this anything that resembles credibility.
Moxie and team, bravo. You've made the snoopers jobs a whole lot harder. Your goal of making encryption easy to use by the masses is coming come true. It looks as if PGP's days are numbered.
This seems gratuitously hostile (and, even worse, is irrelevant). PGP is a very useful piece of software, and it does something completely different from Signal, and I'm glad both exist.
I'm still sticking with the website version, thanks https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.facebook.o... Messenger, Facebook This app has access to: Identity find accounts on the device read your own contact card add or remove accounts Contacts find accounts on the device read your contacts modify your contacts Location precise location (GPS and network-based) approximate location (network-based) SMS edit…
I don't want to be encouraging Facebook's user-hostile moves, so I'll stop using messages completely if they make my life hard enough, but Swipe is a nice stopgap.
How can I verify my device is indeed running the signal protocol? Messenger is a proprietary app.
- Messenger
- plain vanilla messages i get in Facebook web site
- 'chat' messages, were I to turn on 'chat' in Facebook web site
i'm not asking rhetorically. i honestly can't keep up with all the messaging avenues availabale today...
It's worth remembering that this does not protect metadata. It's believed (though not known for sure) that WhatsApp logs metadata for their encrypted messages, and it looks like Facebook do the same here. If you want to resist mass surveillance this is not a good solution.
Moxie and team, bravo. You've made the snoopers jobs a whole lot harder. Your goal of making encryption easy to use by the masses is coming come true. It looks as if PGP's days are numbered.
> It looks as if PGP's days are numbered. This seems gratuitously hostile (and, even worse, is irrelevant). PGP is a very useful piece of software, and it does something completely different from Signal, and I'm glad both exist.
Comments like this are inevitable and represent Facebook's attempts to induce us to route all of our communications though its platform. For the quoted commenter, it's probably too late.