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Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by pmorici »

mildavw wrote: post #44
deanCommie wrote: post #21

Okay, I'll be the contrarian one: I HATE the name. There have already been trends in the mainstream and right wing media that "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear", that the NSA only monitors the communication of criminals, and that things like iPhone encryption help terrorists first. With that in mind, can you imagine the reaction that the average lay-person will have when they see a clickbait head…

Suggestions and/or concepts you (OP) want to evoke: Patriot Freedom Liberty Good Citizen Free Speech America Fourth Amendment Secure In Papers Right To Privacy

Patriot Paper

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by ryanSrich »

programmarchy wrote: post #54
mildavw wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suggestions and/or concepts you (OP) want to evoke: Patriot Freedom Liberty Good Citizen Free Speech America Fourth Amendment Secure In Papers Right To Privacy

I'll add a counter point and say that I like the name. Politicians have a history of inverting meanings, e.g. Patriot Act, Affordable Health Care Act, etc. -- the public is almost conditioned to invert logic to understand things at this point. Personally, I find the terms above to be patronizing and even suspicious in the political context. The mental operation of inverting the word felony is kind of interesting and…

It's almost satirical, which I'm fine with.

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by Esau »

bwghughes wrote: post #56
cdnsteve wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This looks like an interesting project but has a poor name choice. If it's targeted at non technical users, it may actually prevent them from using it, out of fear that just using it is illegal.

I think folks should chill on the name. It's just a word which makes it stand out as a product. Good job !!

I disagree. Associating cryptography to a criminal term is not wise.

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by madgar »

bwghughes wrote: post #56
cdnsteve wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This looks like an interesting project but has a poor name choice. If it's targeted at non technical users, it may actually prevent them from using it, out of fear that just using it is illegal.

I think folks should chill on the name. It's just a word which makes it stand out as a product. Good job !!

"It's just a word which makes it stand out as a product"

So you think calling a product "nigger" is a good idea? It's just a word and it would certainly stand out.

(Before responding directly to my comment, please consider that I'm criticizing your logic, and don't actually want anyone to create a product with a hateful name)

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by superswordfish »

grenoire wrote: post #30
deanCommie wrote: post #21

Okay, I'll be the contrarian one: I HATE the name. There have already been trends in the mainstream and right wing media that "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear", that the NSA only monitors the communication of criminals, and that things like iPhone encryption help terrorists first. With that in mind, can you imagine the reaction that the average lay-person will have when they see a clickbait head…

Fully agreed. The name sounds 'cool,' but may end up being the thing that leads to the project's early death. Completely counter-productive.

It doesn't even sound cool to me. "Felony" is an ugly word, meaning aside.

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by darklajid »

mildavw wrote: post #44
deanCommie wrote: post #21

Okay, I'll be the contrarian one: I HATE the name. There have already been trends in the mainstream and right wing media that "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear", that the NSA only monitors the communication of criminals, and that things like iPhone encryption help terrorists first. With that in mind, can you imagine the reaction that the average lay-person will have when they see a clickbait head…

Suggestions and/or concepts you (OP) want to evoke: Patriot Freedom Liberty Good Citizen Free Speech America Fourth Amendment Secure In Papers Right To Privacy

I disagree that "America" and "Fourth Amendment" are a good concept, unless you target a very limited subset of humanity.

Patriotism is something I wouldn't like either, I think that's a rather odd concept (and not related to liberty, freedom or security).

Good Citizen sounds like it comes straight from a famous book inventing doublespeak.

Even Free Speech is not a global concept - the way you capitalize it I assume you're after the US version again.

Probably the lesson is (again) that naming things is a hard problem (I agree that Felony might not be a good name too by the way)

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by wmluke »

deanCommie wrote: post #21

Okay, I'll be the contrarian one: I HATE the name. There have already been trends in the mainstream and right wing media that "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear", that the NSA only monitors the communication of criminals, and that things like iPhone encryption help terrorists first. With that in mind, can you imagine the reaction that the average lay-person will have when they see a clickbait head…

Currently, the trending HN commentry is focused on this name, and as much I like a good naming debate, I feel it is distracting from more "significant" concerns, such as...

How does the app handle encryption? Has there been a security review?How are keys handled? How are conversations persisted in the app? Does it use iCloud? Etc...

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by peterbonney »

bwghughes wrote: post #56
cdnsteve wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This looks like an interesting project but has a poor name choice. If it's targeted at non technical users, it may actually prevent them from using it, out of fear that just using it is illegal.

I think folks should chill on the name. It's just a word which makes it stand out as a product. Good job !!

In that famous Goldman Sachs "theft" case, use of a tool called "Subversion" (which any IT person knows is just vanilla version control software) was taken by the FBI as evidence of malicious intent.

Just saying.

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by jameskegel »

madgar wrote: post #64
bwghughes wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think folks should chill on the name. It's just a word which makes it stand out as a product. Good job !!

"It's just a word which makes it stand out as a product" So you think calling a product "nigger" is a good idea? It's just a word and it would certainly stand out. (Before responding directly to my comment, please consider that I'm criticizing your logic, and don't actually want anyone to create a product with a hateful name)

That is a needlessly crass example. I get your point, but that's not the best way you could have made it.
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