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Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

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Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

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yeah, but unless you're in a city like New York (possibly a handful of others) the wait is FOREVER. In Phoenix it was routine to have to wait half an hour or more. Same in SLC. It's awful. Uber and Lyft reduced the wait to a fraction of the time with better, quicker and cheaper service.

This complaint makes no sense to me. You just call the taxi company further in advance of when you need the ride. If you know it's always around a 30 minute wait, just call 45 minutes ahead of time and tell them the time you need picked up. Phoenix & SLC are also not cities in which people are likely to rely on on-demand ride sharing. Most people own their own car especially if they care about being able to determine…

I just logged in specifically to tell you that as a SLC resident without a car, I use lyft extensively. Similarly all my friends do as well, for the almost perfect example people use of preventing drunk driving.

I'm already pretty strapped for cash, hence why I don't have a car but I utilize Uber & Lyft when I'm unable to get to my destination in a timely manner.

I would not however get a taxi simply because I don't know the number to call, I don't know when they'll arrive at my house, and simply the entire taxi experience is just horrible.

Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

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In just world this would result in a prison sentence, banishment from stock exchanges, and revocation of their corporate charter. The fact that there is no capital punishment for companies, especially public ones, provides a moral hazard.

Yes, punish the hundreds who simply do their job by forcing the company to go out of business, instead of trying to steer it towards a more productive future. We've gotta justify that pitchfork investment, don't we?

You punish the family when you send a parent to prison.

Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

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The latest disclosures Tuesday, uncovered by a company probe, found that in the last few weeks of December 2009, Laplanche and three relatives took out 32 loans for a total of $722,800. All but three of those loans were repaid in full over the next two months, implying they were taken out to artificially goose Lending Club’s loan origination numbers. If true, would that be considered fraud?

Whether it is or not it doesn't have any relevance to the current state of the company.

Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

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Wow, so the crown of the "fintech" movement is just as bad as the banks, and the two biggest Silicon Valley successes of the last decade, Uber and AirBnB, are really just cases of massively successful regulatory arbitrage. Nice innovation!

Please, the handful of irregularities they found at LC doesn't begin to amount to the shady stuff large banks have been caught doing. More importantly if you are a regular investor in LC loans none of the things found have caused investors in LC notes to lose money.

Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

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Other than investing in their stock, there's an argument to be made that it might actually be a relatively safe time to invest in their loans.

Nothing they have disclosed has caused me to stop investing in their loans. In fact you can get some nice high grade loans on their secondary market from people trying to unload their portfolio at a 3-5% discount to face value.

As long as they don't have any debt on the books you are pretty safe. If they did have debt there might be some question about order of payment to creditors.

Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

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People have dreamt about on-demand car hailing for a long time, but it's always been a pipe dream - building the two-sided network is such too hard and too expensive, and a small network is just not worth using as a consumer. How is this not innovation?

Most of the innovation there was in the cell phone[1]. You've been able to order a car by phone in major metros for longer than those have been around. In fact, Uber started off as an app for using those very services. Props to Uber for execution, but all the pieces were there. [1]-edit: some in the smartphone, but most in the old "makes calls" cell phones

>Props to Uber for execution, but all the pieces were there.

Much innovation looks very easy from an ex-post perspective. Putting wheels on a suitcase etc.

Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This complaint makes no sense to me. You just call the taxi company further in advance of when you need the ride. If you know it's always around a 30 minute wait, just call 45 minutes ahead of time and tell them the time you need picked up. Phoenix & SLC are also not cities in which people are likely to rely on on-demand ride sharing. Most people own their own car especially if they care about being able to determine…

I just logged in specifically to tell you that as a SLC resident without a car, I use lyft extensively. Similarly all my friends do as well, for the almost perfect example people use of preventing drunk driving. I'm already pretty strapped for cash, hence why I don't have a car but I utilize Uber & Lyft when I'm unable to get to my destination in a timely manner. I would not however get a taxi simply because I don't…

This just makes your comment lose all credibility to me, I'm afraid:

> I would not however get a taxi simply because I don't know the number to call, I don't know when they'll arrive at my house, and simply the entire taxi experience is just horrible.

You don't know the number? Really? If you have a mobile device from which to use Lyft, then getting the number is completely and entirely trivial.

While there is some variability in taxi arrival time (just as there is with Lyft or Uber arrival time), taxis typically are no later or more difficult to estimate. You just tell them when the taxi should arrive and that's when it will be there. There are even many apps for tracking taxis on a map interface. Those apps mostly only work in large cities, but it's easy to see they will expand to many other cities, certainly a city of the size of SLC.

You say "the entire taxi experience is just horrible" but your two biggest complaints are that you don't know the number (and apparently can't be bothered to look it up one time and add it to your contacts) and you don't know when they'll arrive (even though you tell them when to arrive, that's when they arrive, and their variability is not significantly different than Uber or Lyft variability).

I'm not able to make any sense of this if it's intended to be a criticism of the taxi experience in SLC.

Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

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post #64

Wow, so the crown of the "fintech" movement is just as bad as the banks, and the two biggest Silicon Valley successes of the last decade, Uber and AirBnB, are really just cases of massively successful regulatory arbitrage. Nice innovation!

Please, the handful of irregularities they found at LC doesn't begin to amount to the shady stuff large banks have been caught doing. More importantly if you are a regular investor in LC loans none of the things found have caused investors in LC notes to lose money.

Agreed as much as I love ragging on unicorns LC did not complicity launder money for Mexican drug cartels [1].

[1]:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/avinash-tharoor/banks-cartel-m...

Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

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The latest disclosures Tuesday, uncovered by a company probe, found that in the last few weeks of December 2009, Laplanche and three relatives took out 32 loans for a total of $722,800. All but three of those loans were repaid in full over the next two months, implying they were taken out to artificially goose Lending Club’s loan origination numbers. If true, would that be considered fraud?

I feel like almost every startup that "made it" used dark-hat growth hacking tactics to pad their numbers. But the other companies were typically in the consumer internet space. I would expect some additional rules to exist for a highly regulated market like Finance.

There is some truth to Gilfoyle in the season finale of Silicon Valley when he says: "I think I finally respect you as a CEO."
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