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The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after voting to leave it

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Re: The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after voting to leave it

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Or, perhaps, it's a compelling reason why things like this shouldn't be decided by referendum.

how should they be decided then?

We elect politicians whose full-time jobs it is to understand big and complicated issues, and to decide on our behalf how to deal with them. That includes the right to make and break treaties with other world powers.

Why should something like this be any different?

Re: The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after voting to leave it

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That reminds me of certain American voters saying they support Trump just because they want to tear the system down. I don't think they realize what tearing the system down would actually mean.

There's no harm in tearing down something that doesn't benefit the majority of voters in this country. I say let 'er burn.

Yes, perfect illustration of my point.

The government benefits the people enormously. Yes, it has a lot of problems, but we're way better off with it than without it. I can totally understand a desire for reform, but simply tearing it down is insane.

Re: The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after voting to leave it

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Isn't that expected? People who voted for the establishment status quo want to know what might happen in the years to come now that the vote has gone against them. Voting to stay meant no change, therefore they knew more or less the outcome, but now that the outcome is opposite their votes, they want to look into the repercussions --this informs that it's likely they stay vote didn't investigate the alternative befor…

Now look at the demographics where voters voted for exit and see how does it compare in terms of age, education and income compared to those who foter for staying.

Re: The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after voting to leave it

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Isn't that expected? People who voted for the establishment status quo want to know what might happen in the years to come now that the vote has gone against them. Voting to stay meant no change, therefore they knew more or less the outcome, but now that the outcome is opposite their votes, they want to look into the repercussions --this informs that it's likely they stay vote didn't investigate the alternative befor…

> But way to go WaPo and imply naïveté on the Brexiters.

The D.C. political class : politics :: MBAs : business. And WaPo is the Harvard Business Review. In that it's often useful, but suffers from the belief that the hoi polloi would be lost without the "professional political class" to tell them what they want, and derisively dismisses ideas that don't originate within certain orthodox circles.

Re: The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after voting to leave it

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One of the original suggested referendum questions was "Do you think that the United Kingdom should be a member of the European Union?"

It was rejected in favour of "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of European Union" because "some participants in our research did not know that the United Kingdom is currently a member of the European Union."*

If that wasn't evidence the referendum was a bad idea...

*http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file...

Re: The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after voting to leave it

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How do you know that they regret it "in many cases"?

Gut feeling after reading the article I suppose? Would you really be surprised if many voters didn't know what they were voting for? Especially if the outcome is one agreed upon by most intellectuals to be the worse outcome.

No, I wouldn't be surprised at all. I was just curious, hopefully I did not come across as confrontational.

Re: The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after voting to leave it

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I can say with confidence that it might mean the government stays out of their medicare /s

Not sure if you're being facetious, but Medicare IS the government, you do realize this? Medicare isn't some magical, mythical creature that existed from the dawn of time and has always been there: it is explicitly a creation of the government ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States) )

note the /s

Re: The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after voting to leave it

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On the contrary, the fact the EU had enormous power over British people, yet barely anyone knew what it was, what it did, or why it was important, was a compelling reason for the UK to leave.

Or, perhaps, it's a compelling reason why things like this shouldn't be decided by referendum.

There's nothing wrong with having a referendum over it. But a horrible media industry has made a circus over the entire thing, leaving many people misinformed.

Re: The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after voting to leave it

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On the contrary, the fact the EU had enormous power over British people, yet barely anyone knew what it was, what it did, or why it was important, was a compelling reason for the UK to leave.

I'm genuinely curious how someone living in an EU state does not know what it is and some of the stuff the org does day-to-day. How does this happen?

That's why governments and more specifically republics exist, because the masses are stupid.
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