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Re: Trump

#61
post #7

> And without it, we’ll lose our position as the most powerful country in the world. Why is this a bad thing? Isn't the goal of globalization to start thinking of our planet as a whole?

Should Saudi Arabia have a voice equal to, or maybe superior to Massachusetts WRT gay rights or feminism?

Re: Trump

#62

Disappointed to see Sam repeat things that are plainly false. Everyone says that Trump says such horrible things, but why is it that so often those same people have to misquote him to make it seem horrible? > He has said that a judge of Mexican descent couldn’t treat him fairly because of his heritage and that we should ban Muslims from entering the country. He said that a judge of Mexican descent isn't treating him…

I'm curious why this comment has been so aggressively down-voted. Do we now eschew fact-checking on HN?

I think it's the cognitive dissonance. People have so convinced themselves that Trump is Hitler incarnate, that they are unable to read anything positive about him. Sam would be crucified for this "Trump is right post" if he hadn't followed that up with 10 paragraphs of negative (some false) things.

I've tried to engage people regarding Trump on facebook (not confrontationally; with facts and debate). The last time I replied to a post regarding the Mexican-American judge, the OP deleted the entire post within an hour. The time before that when someone said Trump has no policies I pointed out his major policies/themes that he's had and got radio silence on the thread.

Re: Trump

#63
post #7

> And without it, we’ll lose our position as the most powerful country in the world. Why is this a bad thing? Isn't the goal of globalization to start thinking of our planet as a whole?

Because America is a much more benevolent dictator than China, Putin or any other country.

Re: Trump

#64
post #44

He's right that we're drowning in political correctness... Trump's casual racism, misogyny, and conspiracy theories are without precedent... That's some impressive cognitive dissonance, sama. Those are two aspects of the same thought happening in Trump's mind. EDIT: Stewart Lee's smart (and amusing!) bit on the idea of "political correctness": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmsV1TuESrc

We understand that those are intwined in Trump's head. That's an expected consequence of his general lake of nuance.

Re: Trump

#65
post #25

While I think Trump is a bad choice, I think comparing him to Hitler is overzealous and irresponsible. There are no doubt similarities between the two but Hitler wrote an entire book about the "Jewish Peril" and how it was destroying society and needed to be dealt with. It was clear that Hitler had an agenda that was anti-semetic, and the charisma/ability to execute on it. Trump is a racist and a bigot, but he is far…

While I think Trump is a bad choice, I think comparing him to Hitler is overzealous and irresponsible.

I think it's just plain lazy.

In Presidential elections, we generally have terrible choices (even if this doesn't become obvious until much later). This year is particularly noteworthy.

Painting one side as evil incarnate is neither insightful nor productive, and the type of fodder easily available on hundreds of other sites.

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#66

> To anyone familiar with the history of Germany in the 1930s, it's chilling to watch Trump in action. [...] Demagogic hate-mongers lead down terrible paths. It would be particularly embarrassing for us to fall for this—we are a nation of immigrants, and we know that immigrants built this country (and Trump, of course, is the grandson of immigrants and married to an immigrant). As Hitler was Austrian, technically spe…

Only technically. Austria was historically always seen as part of the German nation, just not part of Germany-the-country for purely political reasons – first the Habsburgs didn't want to subjugate themselves to the Prussian upstarts, and when Austria-Hungary fell apart, the Entente forbade Austria to join Germany, but couldn't prevent the two from closely cooperating, nor the German population from accepting Austrians. So nobody saw him as a migrant.

Only after WW2 did the countries and societies start to drift apart (to no small part due to Hitler's semi-forced Anschluss of Austria).

Re: Trump

#67

Disappointed to see Sam repeat things that are plainly false. Everyone says that Trump says such horrible things, but why is it that so often those same people have to misquote him to make it seem horrible? > He has said that a judge of Mexican descent couldn’t treat him fairly because of his heritage and that we should ban Muslims from entering the country. He said that a judge of Mexican descent isn't treating him…

This is how trump talks.

He says "BIG OUTRAGEOUS THING, with long list of qualifiers that follow" the media reports the first part and completely misses the second. Mostly it's a great way to game the system to get free media attention.

Re: Trump

#68

The only things Trump is right about are the exact same things that every politician says: > He's right that many Americans are getting screwed by the system. He’s right that the economy is not growing nearly fast enough. He's right that we're drowning in political correctness, and that broken campaign finance laws have bred a class of ineffective career politicians. It's demagoguery 101.

Trump seems to be one of those rare politicians that hate political correctness though.

Re: Trump

#69
Trump is a very annoying obnoxious person. But he's not a mass killer or compulsive liar. He doesn't hold grudges, he makes deals.

Clinton however has a grudge list of her enemies and there is a long history of her enemies getting knocked off. She's a narcissist, a psychopath, a bully, and she is bought and owned by corporations which don't believe in free trade or capitalism on an even playing surface, but believe publicly mitigated risk, privately held profit, and redistribution of wealth from the weak to the powerful, along with silencing of critics through dirty tricks and more.

Trump is not Hitler.

However, Clinton is definitely Stalin.

Clinton will be the next President, that is an easily foreseeable inevitability. Following this, this country will be completely destroyed by her actions. There's no stopping her election. There is only preparing for the inevitable future. Whether Clinton (inevitable) or Trump (impossible) that future will be bleak for most.

Re: Trump

#70
post #25

While I think Trump is a bad choice, I think comparing him to Hitler is overzealous and irresponsible. There are no doubt similarities between the two but Hitler wrote an entire book about the "Jewish Peril" and how it was destroying society and needed to be dealt with. It was clear that Hitler had an agenda that was anti-semetic, and the charisma/ability to execute on it. Trump is a racist and a bigot, but he is far…

You should take a look at how Hitler looked like in the early 30s as he was beginning his ascension toward Chancellorship. There are a lot more resemblances with Trump than you think.

There really aren't. In any case, the same was said about George W. Bush during both his runs for the Oval Office, and while I don't say he was a particularly worthwhile president, in hindsight the Hitler comparison was every bit as erroneous as even an elementary knowledge of 20th century history would suggest.
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