Just turn off cookies and use a proxy, Google results are still way way superior.
Care about search privacy? Duck Duck Go no longer logs IPs.
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Re: Care about search privacy? Duck Duck Go no longer logs IPs.
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
By privacy conscious I mean users - specifically us techy users (where there is a lot of privacy debate currently going on)
It's certainly a niche, but I'm not sure how many techy users really care about privacy. We all have Gmail accounts, right? Which store emailed passwords, password reset links, private conversations, account balances, and all sorts of other stuff? Another data point... Our userbase at RescueTime is comprised almost entirely geeks. We measure and store second-by-second attention data on their computer. We make all sor…
I think you are right but in the short term only. I think long term there will be some huge flap involving online privacy and after that people will wake up to what the consequences can be.
Re: Care about search privacy? Duck Duck Go no longer logs IPs.
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> "Most search companies want to identify you." I'm not convinced they want to do it for any malicious/profit based motive. They want to identify me to give me a better user experience, sure. Being able to identify users searching on a search engine doesn't suddenly mean it's easier to monetize. Google would still make billions from the adverts next to search results regardless of how identifiable users are. It's no…
Remember when AOL purposely released search data? They tried to think it through and took steps to anonymize the data before they let anyone look at it. A lot of interesting things fell out of it, a lot more then you'd expect. http://consumerist.com/2006/08/aol-user-927-illuminated.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOL_search_data_scandal In the end you're either part of that set or your not. What's bothering people…
I have a copy of that dataset.
Re: Care about search privacy? Duck Duck Go no longer logs IPs.
#64That's great news. Pretty ballsy move too, I'd like to see google match you on that one.
The one little issue is that IP traffic passes through a whole pile of routers before reaching your target, so if you really care about your privacy that much then you should probably use https.
Re: Care about search privacy? Duck Duck Go no longer logs IPs.
#65That's great news. Pretty ballsy move too, I'd like to see google match you on that one. The one little issue is that IP traffic passes through a whole pile of routers before reaching your target, so if you really care about your privacy that much then you should probably use https.
Ballsy, I don't know. I'd call it very smart. Maybe I don't know the extent of the benefits of IP tracking, but being relatively unknown, this is a great way to gain market share as a niche.
> you should probably use https
Not sure if this is what you're implying, but https://duckduckgo.com is mentioned in the article.
Re: Care about search privacy? Duck Duck Go no longer logs IPs.
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
By privacy conscious I mean users - specifically us techy users (where there is a lot of privacy debate currently going on)
It's certainly a niche, but I'm not sure how many techy users really care about privacy. We all have Gmail accounts, right? Which store emailed passwords, password reset links, private conversations, account balances, and all sorts of other stuff? Another data point... Our userbase at RescueTime is comprised almost entirely geeks. We measure and store second-by-second attention data on their computer. We make all sor…
A fair point certainly.
However there has been a lot of discussion about this recently - especially regarding search. I think there is a fair number of people for whom anonymous searching is important and that is only likely to get larger.
Re: Care about search privacy? Duck Duck Go no longer logs IPs.
#67So the one thing that never seems quite right about this: how/why do we trust that the guy doesn't log IP addresses? Let's put it this way: If someone promises not to do anything bad with the IP addresses they store, and we don't trust them about that, why would we trust someone when they say they don't store them at all?
Re: Care about search privacy? Duck Duck Go no longer logs IPs.
#68There's still an issue of trust, why should I trust Duck Duck Go any more than a company that has a reputation to lose?
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Re: Care about search privacy? Duck Duck Go no longer logs IPs.
#69There's still an issue of trust, why should I trust Duck Duck Go any more than a company that has a reputation to lose? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
What could be done in this area to make you trust? EFF certification of some sort?
Re: Care about search privacy? Duck Duck Go no longer logs IPs.
#70It seems sort of like you're destroying the possibility for growth with this, though. From what I understand of Google's work, they really have improved tremendously from analyzing data (to find how searches go wrong), and from using the data in new features (such as with spell checking, adding new terms into the query, personalizing searches, etc.). And I mean, I value privacy. I do. But, I value the quality of the…
There is a lot you can do with the aggregate query data.
I do plan to eventually have accounts, i.e. opt-in features.
And as for results, I would suggest you try it for a week or so and see for yourself.