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The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]
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Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is great! What will be the source of revenue? Dual-license? Support?
It's explained here. Sage itself is 100% open source, but we have a cloud hosted environment people can pay (a very reasonable amount) to use. https://cloud.sagemath.com/policies/pricing.html
Please charge an unreasonable amount, to secure a good source of funding for your work.
Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]
#63Slightly off-topic: Does anyone know if Sage allows for lisp-style meta-programming like Mathematica?
Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]
#64So is the business model likely to be similar to that of RStudio where organisations can buy an annual 'commercial licence' to support the project (in addition to the GPLed version being freely available as mentioned below)?
Free software , paid hosting
Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
almost none, because sagemath more or less switched to use jupyter as its graphical notebook interface. technically, there is a small preparser (for a little bit of syntax sugar on top of python) and some deeper integration of the plotting capabilities.
And hundreds of thousands of lines of new code not available anywhere else written by over 500 mathematicians over the last decade...
Those lone software new code are bound to sage, not separable Python modules?
Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]
#66I'm glad William included slide 10 calling attention to the hostile and insulting attitude Wolfram Research has toward mathematicians and reproducible science in general. (I think some of Sage Math Inc's other closed-course competitors likely have similar attitudes, but Wolfram Research seems to be the worst.) "You should realize at the outset that while knowing about the internals of Mathematica may be of intellectu…
This is why when Big Bang Theory debuted, I thought Sheldon Cooper was specifically supposed to be a parody of Stephen Wolfram.
In math, how you came by the results you came by is always relevant. Don't tell mathematicians they don't need to know that. It's their job to know that.
Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]
#67I'm glad William included slide 10 calling attention to the hostile and insulting attitude Wolfram Research has toward mathematicians and reproducible science in general. (I think some of Sage Math Inc's other closed-course competitors likely have similar attitudes, but Wolfram Research seems to be the worst.) "You should realize at the outset that while knowing about the internals of Mathematica may be of intellectu…
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Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]
#68Does make sense - academia is about theory, businesses are part of implementing end user solutions. most of academia runs on a tech stack delivered by commercial entities anyway. Building products is not as much about creativity as delivering a fixed product with a service plan and support chain in addition to product development. Companies have various operations to create full fledged products - academia can supply…
What you are describing is the status quo, but it is certainly possible for government to fund software development. As William points out in his presentation, it is already being done indirectly through software license purchases. I think it would be interesting to see what academics could achieve if they were offered some modest grants aimed at developing and maintaining viable open-source alternatives to all commercial software for which government is currently paying license fees.
Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]
#69How does the trajectory of SageMath compare to Julia?
This question keeps me up at night, as I presume it does for my colleagues at Julia Computing. Not that switching to a fully commercial model is necessarily a bad thing, but Julia Labs, like any academic group, always has to worry about where funding will come from.
Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]
#70For other people confused about the meaning of BP in this context, it means Benjamin Pierce Fellow. It appears this talk was given in the context of the Benjamin Pierce Centennial Conference: http://www.math.harvard.edu/conferences/bp/
Yes, exactly. And I haven't given the talk yet! I'm giving it 2 hours from right now, and I'm pretty nervous.
Good Luck!