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Re: Simply Hired is shutting down June 26

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The purchase was 6+ years ago, and the deadwood is still there?

Absolutely! It is, after all, deadwood -- and given that it's broadly resistant to Oracle's management-by-asphyxiation, it will likely be there for quite some time to come...

Can confirm, although the asphyxiation often comes from a level or two up.

Re: Simply Hired is shutting down June 26

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Yeah. Indeed.com has the worst user experience and yet it is still running strong, simply because Indeed.com is everywhere!

(Disclosure - I'm friends with some folks at Indeed.) I'm also curious to what you dislike about the UX. Indeed certainly isn't going to win any beauty contests, but I think they have excellent laser focus on exactly what they want to do: the site is very fast, simple, and has a minimal set of features that are useful without a bunch of extra BS.

I know I had to Greasemonkey the site up to get search parameters I wanted like the ability to retain a large number of results per page (100 is the cap) without having to go through advanced search every time, and doing a large regional search by filtering states I didn't want to move to and blacklisted companies from the results rather than screw around with the limited 100 mile radius.

Re: Simply Hired is shutting down June 26

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post #50

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(Disclosure - I'm friends with some folks at Indeed.) I'm also curious to what you dislike about the UX. Indeed certainly isn't going to win any beauty contests, but I think they have excellent laser focus on exactly what they want to do: the site is very fast, simple, and has a minimal set of features that are useful without a bunch of extra BS.

I know I had to Greasemonkey the site up to get search parameters I wanted like the ability to retain a large number of results per page (100 is the cap) without having to go through advanced search every time, and doing a large regional search by filtering states I didn't want to move to and blacklisted companies from the results rather than screw around with the limited 100 mile radius.

You are not the typical user. (I say this with awe, not disrespect).

Re: Simply Hired is shutting down June 26

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Yeah. Indeed.com has the worst user experience and yet it is still running strong, simply because Indeed.com is everywhere!

I'd sincerely love to hear how you would improve Indeed.com. I no longer work there, but I did previously, and I still care about their UI. If you have real suggestions, I'll make sure someone at Indeed sees your comments.

I'll throw a couple. I like Indeed's UX but there's always something to improve.

-Indeed isn't responsive, SimplyHired is. This isn't just a mobile thing, I like to snap two windows side by side on one monitor when using these sites. Indeed forces horizontal scroll at like 940px which is pretty huge. The leftmost and rightmost columns could squeeze a lot more than they do, and they could switch to something minimal below that point.

-Remember the Google SERP redesign, when they removed the underlines? SimplyHired looks a bit like the old version, and Indeed looks like the current version. The old one was better. Easier to scan. Less wasted space.

-"My Recent Searches" pushes down the filters, but it's basically a rehash of the information in the filters. Also, if you uncheck a salary range, and check another one, the Recent Searches ends up showing you that you looked at salary-unspecified jobs in that town. So it's wasting space to remind me of a search that:

A) Isn't useful

B) Is already shown up in the search bar

C) I never actually looked at (my browser did, I didn't)

Re: Simply Hired is shutting down June 26

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Most of us in this industry should think about the consequences of this case:

Employer/Interviewer: assume the other party is an idiot/faker

Candidate/Engineer: if the other party is an asshole, I don't want to work for them, because I don't want them in my daily life.

Re: Simply Hired is shutting down June 26

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"As one of the bigger recruiting companies, the company gets about 30 million visitors each month and claims to search some 6 million jobs across 700,000 employers. In comparison, Monster claimed in Q1 it had some 50,000 employers in its database, and does not disclose MAUs. Indeed.com says is has more than 180 million monthly active visitors."

And yet they apparently can't make enough money to sustain themselves and need funding.

Perhaps it shows just how careful one have to be to put together the right metrics to measure your success by.

Re: Simply Hired is shutting down June 26

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there's an interviewing technique among senior execs to take on an aggressive, rude tone to interviewees to "see how they respond under pressure." One way to spot it is if they respond in a contrary way to everything and generally try to pick on you to find chinks in your armor. the first time I experienced it I was pretty shaken up. either that or the person you spoke with is just an asshole.

When I was in my early-mid twenties and trying to make the internal jump from top-tier Help Desk to SysAdmin I had a Director who did this. The earlier interviews were fine. I was fairly green, but I seemed to get the basics of the position, was very eager to learn, and had the recommendation of my (large) department's management up to VP. They asked me technical questions which I did pretty well on. Then the Directo…

Staying calm and speaking during confrontations is a learnable skill. I humbly recommend reading the book Crucial Conversations, if you haven't read it, then practicing the techniques.

I tell my "underlings" to breathe (with their diaphragm), to take their time, and to carry their voice.

[1] http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Conversations-Talking-Stakes-S...

Re: Simply Hired is shutting down June 26

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This was destined to happen i guess! SimplyHired has no USP, scrapers which can massively scrape jobs and SEO which gets users,that's about it. No clear direction and competing with Indeed, which has better tech must have been hard for them. Also, I wonder with $34 million in funding, why they didn't launch any products to cater the users/companies.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but the name rings a bell from a scraper company I worked at some 10 years ago (I left that company in 2008).

Our scraper back then was light years ahead of any others, both in regards to performance (think checkpointing of program state) + accuracy of parsing and JS execution (back then the target goal was a complete emulation of IE6+, sans ActiveX (exception being various host objects such as XMLHttpRequest))

This scraper was easier programming then anything else out there (think visual domain specific programming language). 7 years after having left that company I was called into an interview at a rather big HR company, with them essentially asking me to meet and greet a group of 20 people, all of them working with an old old version of said software, that I had worked on releasing - as a team of two - many years prior. Quite the bizarre encounter telling them how to work with a product that was IE 5.5 compatible, and drawing on old legacy knowledge for said purpose.

Re: Simply Hired is shutting down June 26

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When I was in my early-mid twenties and trying to make the internal jump from top-tier Help Desk to SysAdmin I had a Director who did this. The earlier interviews were fine. I was fairly green, but I seemed to get the basics of the position, was very eager to learn, and had the recommendation of my (large) department's management up to VP. They asked me technical questions which I did pretty well on. Then the Directo…

Staying calm and speaking during confrontations is a learnable skill. I humbly recommend reading the book Crucial Conversations, if you haven't read it, then practicing the techniques. I tell my "underlings" to breathe (with their diaphragm), to take their time, and to carry their voice. [1] http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Conversations-Talking-Stakes-S...

Yeah, but another valuable skill is knowing that if you are treated this badly in an interview that even if you really want the job, sometimes it's best to walk away.
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