The reluctance for people to be skeptical of anything to do with Magic Leap is strange to me. How is their product not rightly described as vapor ware? I feel like I've been hearing about how amazing it is for ages and still...nothing. Stories like this aren't helping me change my mind either.
Gauging off their patents, they've got so much bleeding edge shit to pack into their device that I'm not expecting a consumer ready product from Magic Leap in less than 5 years. I'm just going to have to get used to people throwing around the 'vapourware' accusation in every Magic Leap thread I stumble across for some time to come.
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#62The reluctance for people to be skeptical of anything to do with Magic Leap is strange to me. How is their product not rightly described as vapor ware? I feel like I've been hearing about how amazing it is for ages and still...nothing. Stories like this aren't helping me change my mind either.
I am not even sure what ' deep learning techniques utilizing robotics' even means.
Presumably that's not the secret thing since it's directly from the Google Research Blog.
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He wrote the Learning OpenCV book but I'm not sure it's accurate to say he created openCV... It was created by intel internally (by a ton of folks like Vadim Pisarevsky) and later open sourced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCV
No, it is accurate. He was at Intel when it was created, and meeting notes suggest that he had been leading the project. https://github.com/Itseez/opencv/wiki/Meeting_notes
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#65I don't know if ML's tech is vapor or real, but I have a lot of respect for anyone who can get Larry Page to give them half a billion in cash. That right there is some seriously convincing talking.
fair point. I'd add that if a person has $10+ billion, already (or whatever his net worth is), then you can afford to risk blowing a few billion, here and there, on things which might turn into a loss. On the upside, he'd be better off and humanity would be better off. On the downside even if his bet failed and he and therefore the Page estate got reduced to a mere, say, $100 million in net wealth he and his children…
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No, it is accurate. He was at Intel when it was created, and meeting notes suggest that he had been leading the project. https://github.com/Itseez/opencv/wiki/Meeting_notes
Leading a project inside a company != creating the thing.
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#68The reluctance for people to be skeptical of anything to do with Magic Leap is strange to me. How is their product not rightly described as vapor ware? I feel like I've been hearing about how amazing it is for ages and still...nothing. Stories like this aren't helping me change my mind either.
> The reluctance for people to be skeptical of anything to do with Magic Leap is strange to me. The propensity for people speaking for others trust channels is strange to me, but people still do it. Selling ones own beliefs on the coat tails of others beliefs probably isn't the best way to hard sell skepticism in a brand. That said, I'm more skeptical of Magic Leap's intent than yours, given I trust them about as far…
Augmenting one's vision without a new form of software security is going to be a really bad idea. A person in a crosswalk could be made to disappear for the occupants of a car. Drawing a gun in a man's hand could cause a police officer to shoot him.
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fair point. I'd add that if a person has $10+ billion, already (or whatever his net worth is), then you can afford to risk blowing a few billion, here and there, on things which might turn into a loss. On the upside, he'd be better off and humanity would be better off. On the downside even if his bet failed and he and therefore the Page estate got reduced to a mere, say, $100 million in net wealth he and his children…
Well in this case it is the company's money, and lots of people within the company are "competing" for funding of their projects. Of course there is the reverse NIH effect which is that any technology invented outside of the company seems more impressive to leadership than technology created inside the company.
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> The reluctance for people to be skeptical of anything to do with Magic Leap is strange to me. The propensity for people speaking for others trust channels is strange to me, but people still do it. Selling ones own beliefs on the coat tails of others beliefs probably isn't the best way to hard sell skepticism in a brand. That said, I'm more skeptical of Magic Leap's intent than yours, given I trust them about as far…
Augmenting one's vision without a new form of software security is going to be a really bad idea. A person in a crosswalk could be made to disappear for the occupants of a car. Drawing a gun in a man's hand could cause a police officer to shoot him. That is a cool scenario I've never thought through before. Interesting - thanks!