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Our Week Without Slack

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Re: Our Week Without Slack

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Has anyone noticed how the Slack client seems to just consume resources. I don't recall my IRC clients down the years use as much memory / CPU as my slack client seems to do.

Surely there should not be too much computational overhead involved here or am I missing something?

Re: Our Week Without Slack

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post #61

Has anyone noticed how the Slack client seems to just consume resources. I don't recall my IRC clients down the years use as much memory / CPU as my slack client seems to do. Surely there should not be too much computational overhead involved here or am I missing something?

It halves my macbooks battery life. I wonder if this is a result of the php/js stack. I would not be suprised all these cpu cycles are burnt with busy waiting for new messages.

Re: Our Week Without Slack

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even before IRC there was "talk" which let you chat with anyone logged in to the same host (don't recall if it supported network chat). Remember in those days few people had a computer on their desk, instead they had a terminal that connected to a central host.

Yes talk did work over the network. The programmers that wrote it, though, made fundamental mistakes in it. They sent raw C structures over the network without marshaling, oops! So talk didn't work very well. The issues were addresses in "ntalk".

And while talk only allowed for 2 people to communicate, ytalk allowed multiple people to talk at the same time.

Re: Our Week Without Slack

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes talk did work over the network. The programmers that wrote it, though, made fundamental mistakes in it. They sent raw C structures over the network without marshaling, oops! So talk didn't work very well. The issues were addresses in "ntalk".

And while talk only allowed for 2 people to communicate, ytalk allowed multiple people to talk at the same time.

Hey, glad you remember ytalk. I was one of the maintainers for a short period of time (I owned metawire.org and worked with Jessica Peterson on it). We depended on ytalk for collaboration to chat and share shells. Those were happier times when the internet was populated by geeks. :)

Re: Our Week Without Slack

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post #57

They claim Slack is distracting while the picture at the top of the article is a bunch of people working in cramped quarters in an open office. I think they have bigger fish to fry here. Slack has a mute button. All that requires is self control. You can't mute coworkers sitting too close to you. Even with headphones (which notice half the people in the photo are wearing) you can only somewhat filter out the distract…

I find the Slack mute (away) doesn't quite do what I want. There is still a visual display in the icon tray that indicates that conversation is going on. Short of closing out of Slack entirely there doesn't appear to be a way to make it remove all auditory and visual notifications that new messages are coming in. I would love to have more control over what kinds of auditory and visual notifications can appear when aw…

On Mac OS you can just put your computer on Do Not Disturb and notifications stop happening. I use it all the time.

Sure the icon still updates, but it's invisible until you look at it.

Re: Our Week Without Slack

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As someone having an IRC client open while working since around 15 years this is so mindboggling. (Well, everything regarding the buzz about Slack and how it's a replacement for email, no it's the best thing since sliced bread, no wait, it's horrible.. etc.pp) Why yes, of course you need to restrain yourself from chatting all day. And learn to ignore people or tell them you're not able to talk to them right now - but…

IRC is often mentioned in regards to slack, but I find Instant Messenger(s) a bit closer in spirit. Did everyone stop using those too, in favor of facebook and slack, etc?

IM in a corporate setting has never really take off IMO. Email is usually the choice, which has a more mature in-house management model.

Re: Our Week Without Slack

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post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IRC is often mentioned in regards to slack, but I find Instant Messenger(s) a bit closer in spirit. Did everyone stop using those too, in favor of facebook and slack, etc?

IM in a corporate setting has never really take off IMO. Email is usually the choice, which has a more mature in-house management model.

I've seen Lync (Skype For Business) gain some traction in more corporate settings.

Re: Our Week Without Slack

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post #47

They claim Slack is distracting while the picture at the top of the article is a bunch of people working in cramped quarters in an open office. I think they have bigger fish to fry here. Slack has a mute button. All that requires is self control. You can't mute coworkers sitting too close to you. Even with headphones (which notice half the people in the photo are wearing) you can only somewhat filter out the distract…

To be fair, Vice is an online magazine, not a programming firm. I can absolutely imagine that group conversations are more important in such an environment.

Actually they are an ad agency. Their core business is to create advertisements for their customers. It may sound weird when you read it like this, but on the other hand it's not that uncommon: Google is also an ad agency. So the right point to make here is that their pseudo-magazines are for the most part intended as an outlet for their ads. This is all what I have been told anyway, by a buddy who had a job at one of their European branches.

Re: Our Week Without Slack

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post #59

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>Drinking adds no tangible utility to anything significant. People do it because it's fun, not because it improves the quality of their work. many creative people worked or were inspired "under influence" of various stuff causing addiction. >Group chat adds tangible value to work when used responsibly. some claim so. Well, for example cigarettes or a glass of wine help too - by calming down. Wine is also great for he…

It really amazes me that you're doubling down on this absurd analogy. In addition to drinking you've thrown in tobacco and meth(!) as though they somehow compare to the rather vague and amorphous "dopamine addiction" caused by notifications on a computer. To bring all this back into context, Slack has a mute button. You can't mute the physically addictive qualities of drug addictions. This is a completely bizarre com…

Absurd, yes, and a bit naive or ignorant too perhaps. But offensive? neh.

Re: Our Week Without Slack

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

IRC is often mentioned in regards to slack, but I find Instant Messenger(s) a bit closer in spirit. Did everyone stop using those too, in favor of facebook and slack, etc?

Same here. We started using Slack because it was the only thing that could break the use of ad hoc AIM and Google Chat accounts. I do think that the Slack homes for user groups and open source projects (the ones set up with auto-invite on Heroku) are direct replacements for "join us on Freenode" invitations.

which, TBH, a nightmare, because within slack you need to change "group" to be able to be present in multiple projects, or join multiple slack-irc-server...
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