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Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

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Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

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You're right. It's funny listening to this. They're playing the same song, but it's not even close to as good as the Daft version. The daft version is loud and has a bite. This version just sounds lethargic and boring.

Making ones dance music sound loud and biting rather than lethargic and boring requires deep wizardry which lisp alone cannot provide.

Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

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post #48

The original seems to have been made by creating a feedback loop between one of the outputs and the filter input of an analog synthesizer. The examples I've seen were done on a Yamaha CS-15 but a lot of monophonic old analogs allow you to do that, like a MiniMoog. However the filters on a CS-15 are quite unique, don't think you can even do this exact patch on an MS-20. https://youtu.be/W4PEAKNtbVw?t=184 A good explan…

Amazing – nice find. Never played a CS-15 but it looks like a real powerhouse.

Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

#63

You're right. It's funny listening to this. They're playing the same song, but it's not even close to as good as the Daft version. The daft version is loud and has a bite. This version just sounds lethargic and boring.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11447862 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

#64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Midi step sequences would have a hard time representing the "emotion" some composers are looking for. They all allow different amounts of precision and interpretation of the performance. Staff notation is open to interpretation on the performance level. MIDI is an exact recording (or programming) of a performance. With staff notation you can mark eighth notes and say "staccato, lag behind the beat", and there's an…

I don't think that's quite right. Different midi sequencers will play in a different way, based on the decisions of the midi sequencers author.

Not quite sure what you mean by a different way, or sequencers author. Do you mean the musician, or like Roland/Korg/ARP?

MIDI is a pretty exact specification. If a sequencer is changing the timing of anything, the underlying MIDI structures are not the same then. You can have different amounts of swing or different PPQ values, but then I wouldn't consider that "the same MIDI".

You can feed it to different sound generators of course, different drum machines, synths, a laptop, what-have-you, (most sequencers have both builtin together) but that's different from the MIDI itself.

Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

#66
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tablature is another common notation system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablature

For those that don't want to learn how to read proper notation, usually.

Early lute music was mostly written in tablature FWIW. A lot of the renaissance repertoire is still published that way. It uses letters rather than numbers to represent the frets, which takes getting used to, and puts separate timing marks above the staff.

Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

#67

> The key is F major. Where is this coming from? It's pretty clearly G minor to me. The bass is playing G. The main phrase starts and ends on a G. > This 1.334 is a ratio of adding 5 semitones in hertz. This should sound like this. This harmonic overtone kills it for me. I know there are some overtones in the original, but not like this. 5 semi-tones is an interval of a perfect fourth. I think maybe a perfect fifth w…

Hi, post author here. Thanks for pointing out! I know it's wrong and working on these improvements: https://www.reddit.com/r/Clojure/comments/4dl454/recreating_...

Cool. Those changes sound pretty dead-on.

Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

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post #3

Well that's opened up a fascinating new world to me. Is there a name for that regular logarithmic by linear music notation in the first image? I suddenly feel like a whole lifetime of musical enjoyment has been denied to me by the utterly utterly ridiculous staff notation system.

You might also enjoy Hookpad ( https://www.hooktheory.com/hookpad/new ) and Theorytab ( https://www.hooktheory.com/theorytab/view/daft-punk/get-luck... ) for examples. Hooktheory taught me a lot.

Never seen that site before, very useful indeed! Whenever I see something like this I realise there's a world of sites out on the 'net that I'm missing out on, and a whole load of new ways to learn and demonstrate information like this.

Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

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post #48

The original seems to have been made by creating a feedback loop between one of the outputs and the filter input of an analog synthesizer. The examples I've seen were done on a Yamaha CS-15 but a lot of monophonic old analogs allow you to do that, like a MiniMoog. However the filters on a CS-15 are quite unique, don't think you can even do this exact patch on an MS-20. https://youtu.be/W4PEAKNtbVw?t=184 A good explan…

Feedback loop normally called overdrive. Broke my Voyager improperly using the headphone output for that, haha. I've only ever heard of the MS20 being the source for the lead in the track though. Random Youtube demos seem to get it close enough.

Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

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post #69
post #48

The original seems to have been made by creating a feedback loop between one of the outputs and the filter input of an analog synthesizer. The examples I've seen were done on a Yamaha CS-15 but a lot of monophonic old analogs allow you to do that, like a MiniMoog. However the filters on a CS-15 are quite unique, don't think you can even do this exact patch on an MS-20. https://youtu.be/W4PEAKNtbVw?t=184 A good explan…

Feedback loop normally called overdrive. Broke my Voyager improperly using the headphone output for that, haha. I've only ever heard of the MS20 being the source for the lead in the track though. Random Youtube demos seem to get it close enough.

Wow, really? That shouldn't happen, lots of people do that! I do it with every synth that allows me to loop back into the filter.

I don't think it's the MS-20 as it does come close but the MS-20 is slightly more nasal. Lots of moments I play with it and I think "this sounds ALMOST like The Funk" because with a big resonance on two filters it distorts pretty bad/good :). But perhaps if I try it with the same feedback technique it might get fuller.

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