One of the only reasons I haven't fully moved over to Atom is due to its SFTP support. Any recommendations? I'm definitely considering switching from ST.
Atom Reaches 1M Active Monthly Users
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Re: Atom Reaches 1M Active Monthly Users
#62Is anyone else creeped out that this desktop application phones home every time you start it? Is this just the new normal now?
I find it really creepy too. I think it's now become a part of the culture of both the Atom and VS Code communities. If you bring it up everyine rushes to tell you about how to disable the metrics package while ignoring the other packages that sends data to bugsnag. In the case of VS Code there are instructions to disable it by editing the code which means that when you update, it'll be reverted. At the same time, automatic updates are enabled by default, so it effectively can't be disabled. There are also several popular plugins for both editors that come with analytics on by default with minimal to no mention of this in their descriptions.
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serious question, what makes you consider GA malware?
It's software to silently track your activity across the web without your knowledge or approval.
The knowledge/approval part isn't Google Analytics - that's usually built in to whatever uses it.
In the case of Atom, they state quite plainly on first-load that they track usage for the purposes of telemetry/product improvement, and you can opt-out on first-open.
I'm not really sure I see the issue?
Also, usually with Google Analytics you're viewing a remote website (or in this case I suppose you're phoning home for updates on every startup). If they really wanted to, they could just check their webserver logs. It just saves them having to parse it or graph it.
Is there some particular new information you're concerned or worried about leaking, that they don't already have?
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except for the whole "run anywhere with a terminal", "high quality packages with decades of bugfixes" and "pretty much extensible in every way". (I'm a Vim user myself, but I feel like comparing Atom to Emacs is a big... optimistic. People keep complaining about how slow Atom is, how much memory it hogs up, etc. I think it needs at least a few more years of maturation before being able to call it "the Emacs of X")
>People keep complaining about how slow Atom is, how much memory it hogs up, etc Which is exactly what people have been saying decades ago about Emacs, aka "Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping".
The difference being that, functionality-wise, you don't get anything from using Atom over, say, Emacs or Vim. High memory and CPU utilization is a tradeoff I'm willing to take for the added benefit of running IntelliJ or Visual Studio, because as environments they do way more for certain code bases than either Vim or Emacs could do. But Atom? Not so much. "It's made of Javascript and HTML" is not an advantage (to me) worth the memory and lag.
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#65The most fantastic thing about Atom to me has been the underlying technology-- specifically Electron, which is a novel combination of Chromium and NodeJS. We at Nylas built an email app that originally was a fork of Atom, and now runs on Electron (which is evolving way faster). http://github.com/nylas/n1 I honestly think that Electron is the future of desktop software, and it all started with Atom. Hats off to those…
> I honestly think that Electron is the future of desktop software I like your software but this statement makes me sad -- it's really not a great situation where a desktop software is written in a language that's not exactly great (to say the least); it runs on the top of countless abstraction layers that make the product comparatively very slow. I have 20 CPU cores and 64G RAM, and Slack starts much slower (!) than…
WebAssembly and and Mozilla's Servo are innovations that will likely change that perception.
Servo might even make web the preferred platform for performance.
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#66This is the first time I've opened a discussion about Atom where all the top posts weren't about how horrible and slow it is. Has it gotten better, or have people who know better just given up on this editor?
I'm a confirmed Emacs user since the early 1990s. But when I saw Atom in use on a Youtube tutorial video, I decided to try it. Always interested in finding out what "the young'uns" are using. It's a pretty nice editor, actually. I like the tabs approach; I like the restore at startup. Colorized text works well and detects file types correctly even without filename extension. I notice there's an atom-macros module. Ni…
Would macros win you over?
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#67One of the only reasons I haven't fully moved over to Atom is due to its SFTP support. Any recommendations? I'm definitely considering switching from ST.
SSHFS?
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Ecosystem, but not much more. Code is faster and has very good intellisense for JS. Though it's still in Beta it's been very stable and a pleasure to use.
Indeed, the VSCode intellisense for JS is amazing, especially after the latest February release.
Given it is open source, couldn't Atom just re-use VSCode's intellisense?
Re: Atom Reaches 1M Active Monthly Users
#69The most fantastic thing about Atom to me has been the underlying technology-- specifically Electron, which is a novel combination of Chromium and NodeJS. We at Nylas built an email app that originally was a fork of Atom, and now runs on Electron (which is evolving way faster). http://github.com/nylas/n1 I honestly think that Electron is the future of desktop software, and it all started with Atom. Hats off to those…
As much as I'd love to use something like Nylas, the deal-breaker for me was its sync engine. Having a third party store and index all of my emails just isn't an option for me, and I can't justify jumping through hoops to host it myself when I can just use a client that doesn't require any server-side component.
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's software to silently track your activity across the web without your knowledge or approval.
The knowledge/approval part isn't Google Analytics - that's usually built in to whatever uses it. In the case of Atom, they state quite plainly on first-load that they track usage for the purposes of telemetry/product improvement, and you can opt-out on first-open. I'm not really sure I see the issue? Also, usually with Google Analytics you're viewing a remote website (or in this case I suppose you're phoning home fo…
> The knowledge/approval part isn't Google Analytics - that's usually built in to whatever uses it.
That's right, GA is the malware and websites / apps that use it are distributing malware. Sort of like SourceForge distributing malware with its installers.
> I'm not really sure I see the issue?
Do you have an issue IRL if someone follows you around, taking notes of every where you go? I do.