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Re: PythonJobs.com

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Post by binarycrusader »

scrollaway wrote: post #26
binarycrusader wrote: post #21

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Account creation and login pages are also served over HTTP. This site is insecure and should be taken down immediately.

It's a failure of the web browsers to work with a site that would let you be so insecure that it "should be taken down immediately". Also, I appreciate and agree with the mindset that SSL should be ubiquitous and that this site is insecure, but I gotta say, the way you're phrasing this reminds me of the most arrogant, spoiled customers that "demand" whatever pleases them to customer support and take out all their ang…

Engineers have a moral, ethical, and potentially fiscal responsibility to secure the personal data of individuals they are asking for.

It is not demanding or arrogant to require and/or expect secure connections when an organization is requesting personal data.

Re: PythonJobs.com

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Post by binarycrusader »

scrollaway wrote: post #55
zero_iq wrote: post #44

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Conversely, I find his comment to be perfectly matter-of-fact, whereas I find yours (esp. your last paragraph) comes across as condescending, haughty and (ironically) arrogant.

So you think it's OK to demand the shutdown of a site, saying it "should be taken down immediately "? I wasn't kidding when I said it reminded me of the attitude some of the nastiest people adopt when dealing with CSRs. Completely forgetting the human element and just demanding things all the time. A HN comment has even less of a say in whether a site be taken down. Humility isn't a sin. How hard can it be to stop at…

So you think it's OK to demand the shutdown of a site, saying it "should be taken down immediately"?

If it's potentially exposing the personal information of others, yes. The fact that the above statement values the hypothetical feelings of a person providing the aforementioned site rather than the personal information potentially exposed by anyone using the site suggests that perhaps priorities have not been evaluated properly.

My statement was simple, short, and to the point. No criticism of its author was made nor intended.

Re: PythonJobs.com

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Post by zero_iq »

scrollaway wrote: post #55
zero_iq wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conversely, I find his comment to be perfectly matter-of-fact, whereas I find yours (esp. your last paragraph) comes across as condescending, haughty and (ironically) arrogant.

So you think it's OK to demand the shutdown of a site, saying it "should be taken down immediately "? I wasn't kidding when I said it reminded me of the attitude some of the nastiest people adopt when dealing with CSRs. Completely forgetting the human element and just demanding things all the time. A HN comment has even less of a say in whether a site be taken down. Humility isn't a sin. How hard can it be to stop at…

Considering it should only take a matter of minutes to bring it back up with https using Let's Encrypt, yes. The longer its available without security, the larger the window for trouble.

There is no excuse these days for not protecting your users' data. It should be taken down and secured ASAP.

Re: PythonJobs.com

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Post by Retra »

d0vs wrote: post #60
scrollaway wrote: post #26

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It's a failure of the web browsers to work with a site that would let you be so insecure that it "should be taken down immediately". Also, I appreciate and agree with the mindset that SSL should be ubiquitous and that this site is insecure, but I gotta say, the way you're phrasing this reminds me of the most arrogant, spoiled customers that "demand" whatever pleases them to customer support and take out all their ang…

You're right, but this is just the HN crowd for you. I wonder how some people here communicate IRL.

Probably with more words, less anonymity, and the direct attention of other participants.

Re: PythonJobs.com

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Post by DonHopkins »

collyw wrote: post #28
pythonjobs wrote: post #19

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make sure you don't include the quotes - just: hackernews

Thats exactly what I did.

You forgot the secret invisible soft hyphen: "hacker­news".

That's how you prove you're a worthy web developer.

You can also use "sʍǝuɹǝʞɔɐɥ" to prove you have wicked unicode chops.

Re: PythonJobs.com

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Post by sametmax »

superswordfish wrote: post #47
esaym wrote: post #42

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Knowing more than one language is not very typical? Unless you have been involved as a software dev for 20+ years, if you have on your resume that you know perl,javascript, python, and java...that normally just means you know them very poorly and can only work with them by cuttingand pasting code from google searches... This has just been my general experience (with myself actually...) So, IMO, it is perfectly fine t…

Yet there are people out there capable of learning more than one technology deeply in a short time, and you'd be doing yourself and your employer a disservice to write them off as charlatans.

But how many are they ? And can you afford them ? And do you really need a unicorn for this simple job ?
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