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Re: Being a Female Developer

#61

Post by tomp »

DanBC wrote: post #46
atom-morgan wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've started to think this as well. I believe people, when confronted with dicks at work, are going to attribute it to something that differentiates them from the majority. Someone made a comment that insults your intelligence? Well they must have said it because you're a woman, black, gay, etc. In reality, I think a lot of us go through similar experiences and attribute its occurrence to different characteristics.

Your point - that some people are dicks and they are dicks to everybody is obviously true. But you seem to miss the point that some people are dicks, but are mostly dicks to women, or black people, or disabled people. They may not realise they're being dicks, but other people will recognise elements of dickishness or outright dickery. And also that fighting the dicks makes life better for everyone. I find it weird th…

> I find it weird that when women say (for example) "We are sexually assaulted so often a separate women only London Underground carriage would be welcome, until law enforcement and society can pressure offenders to stop offending" they are met with hostility and denial, rather than a willingness to try to understand the severity of the problem.

This is all well, until these same women start vehemently opposing male-only spaces (e.g. men's clubs, male barbers, ...). Sure, the reasons might be different, but just as women are concerned about being touched by men (physical), so are men concerned about being judged by women (psychological). I think both deserve to be taken into account and made a reality.

Re: Being a Female Developer

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Post by tomp »

Frondo wrote: post #37
monksy wrote: post #36

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> You're a man. I'm not sure you're in the best position to see. I found the sexism right there. ("Is man must not be able to see or have valid experiences.")

Well, of course a man can have valid experiences. A man can't have the experience of being a woman, though, pretty much by definition. That's not sexism, the claim that a man can't experience life as a woman would. In fact, that seems like a really uncontroversial statement.

> A man can't have the experience of being a woman, though, pretty much by definition.

I wonder why all those women then assume it's sexism. After all, they don't know what a man's experience in the same situation would be (by the same logic as above). So it might just be common, non-discriminatory dickery.

Re: Being a Female Developer

#63

Post by tomp »

sridca wrote: post #59

I am noticing a clear trend. Why are articles like this less likely to stay in the front page?

Because they usually don't have very good/strong arguments for the points they're making, so people find it easy to disagree with them. In addition, most are written as propaganda (not this one though).

Re: Being a Female Developer

#64

Post by tomp »

LukeB_UK wrote: post #60
crufo wrote: post #52

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Hi Dang - can you please change back to the original link on Andela's blog? The scrolling issue should be fixed now.

Unfortunately it isn't. It still jumps down about 300px per scroll, which is an awful experience.

It really isn't. I've never seen a site scroll so bad. Way to go, Andela!

Re: Being a Female Developer

#65

Post by atom-morgan »

tomp wrote: post #61
DanBC wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your point - that some people are dicks and they are dicks to everybody is obviously true. But you seem to miss the point that some people are dicks, but are mostly dicks to women, or black people, or disabled people. They may not realise they're being dicks, but other people will recognise elements of dickishness or outright dickery. And also that fighting the dicks makes life better for everyone. I find it weird th…

> I find it weird that when women say (for example) "We are sexually assaulted so often a separate women only London Underground carriage would be welcome, until law enforcement and society can pressure offenders to stop offending" they are met with hostility and denial, rather than a willingness to try to understand the severity of the problem. This is all well, until these same women start vehemently opposing male-…

It makes you wonder if the outrage over different types of encounters you mention (physical vs psychological) is also...a social construct?

Re: Being a Female Developer

#66

Post by Frondo »

tomp wrote: post #62
Frondo wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, of course a man can have valid experiences. A man can't have the experience of being a woman, though, pretty much by definition. That's not sexism, the claim that a man can't experience life as a woman would. In fact, that seems like a really uncontroversial statement.

> A man can't have the experience of being a woman, though, pretty much by definition. I wonder why all those women then assume it's sexism. After all, they don't know what a man's experience in the same situation would be (by the same logic as above). So it might just be common, non-discriminatory dickery.

Heh, I wondered too, at some point in the distant past, and then, rather than just wonder, I started asking my female friends. I took some care to let them know I was genuinely curious and willing to be open-minded to what they had to say.

Maybe you could do the same, with your female friends? Better to ask than keep on wondering.

Re: Being a Female Developer

#67

Post by groovy2shoes »

Frondo wrote: post #66
tomp wrote: post #62

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> A man can't have the experience of being a woman, though, pretty much by definition. I wonder why all those women then assume it's sexism. After all, they don't know what a man's experience in the same situation would be (by the same logic as above). So it might just be common, non-discriminatory dickery.

Heh, I wondered too, at some point in the distant past, and then, rather than just wonder, I started asking my female friends. I took some care to let them know I was genuinely curious and willing to be open-minded to what they had to say. Maybe you could do the same, with your female friends? Better to ask than keep on wondering.

I'm genuinely curious about what your friends had to say. Care to share?

Re: Being a Female Developer

#68

Post by crufo »

tomp wrote: post #64
LukeB_UK wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately it isn't. It still jumps down about 300px per scroll, which is an awful experience.

It really isn't. I've never seen a site scroll so bad. Way to go, Andela!

Hey there - thanks for the feedback, and sorry about that! We're trying to locate the scrolling issue, replicate it, and fix it (thought we already had). Would you mind sharing what your OS/browser are? Thank you!

Re: Being a Female Developer

#69

Post by crufo »

LukeB_UK wrote: post #60
crufo wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi Dang - can you please change back to the original link on Andela's blog? The scrolling issue should be fixed now.

Unfortunately it isn't. It still jumps down about 300px per scroll, which is an awful experience.

Hey there - thanks for the feedback, and sorry about that! We're trying to locate the scrolling issue, replicate it, and fix it (thought we already had). Would you mind sharing what your OS/browser are? Thank you!

Re: Being a Female Developer

#70

Post by crufo »

domrdy wrote: post #2

Sorry for being off-topic / ranting, but why do sites feel the need to hijack scrolling behaviour? Is it me or does this make following the text much more difficult? Instantly threw me off reading the rest of the text...

Hey there - thanks for the feedback, and sorry about that! We're trying to locate the scrolling issue, replicate it, and fix it (thought we already had). Would you mind sharing what your OS/browser are? Thank you!
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