Is there room in the market for a 'prosumer' printer, something like the OnePlus of printers?
Along with non-apple laptops and notebooks, printers seem to be one of the things people complain about the most.
Never buy Epson printers
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#62Epson - If its not chipped ink cartridges its vacuum tubes on their print-heads.
Canon, the print head or logic board dies and unless you replace one and it works or fails you don't know which - sorry.
HP - built like a tank - ink priced like mil-spec.
Dell/Lexmark shiny logo in place of compatibility.
Never buy a network printer without an LCD display to read error messages/input IP addresses.
Beware of printers that can't use card stock - at all (Yeah, Canon, you and your latest inkjets).
Might try Brother next.
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#63Epson printers still require you to have the 4 cartridge even if you want to just print in black !
I believe this is because the tracking dots[1] require yellow ink. [1] https://w2.eff.org/Privacy/printers/index.php
Well, why can I print with just black ink on my canon and HP multifunction printers then?
(they also allow me to do high-res (4800dpi) scans of money without any issue, in hilarious contrast to photoshop, which refuses to open them)
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#64I don't currently have a printer. I think I'd want an economic laser printer. Probably going to print less than 50 pages per month. Needs to work fine under Linux. Any suggestions?
Brother HL-L2340D. Laser B/W, Duplex, Wifi, Linux support and only 80 EUR.
I just checked that type number online, to see whether that was possible (or a typo on your end): two-sided printing for that price. But you're right.
I'm (almost unfortunately) not in the market for a new laser printer. My current Brother HL-2150N still works like a (one-sided) charm.
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#65Epson recently found through customer research that anxiety about ink cartridges was one of their biggest problems and so they are launching printers with refillable ink tanks, currently available in the form of the Epson EcoTank L355. Given that the company has understood this problem and released products to address it it seems that never buying Epson printers might be an incorrect response.
The concept is nice but the EcoTank printers themselves look like junk, in the store at least. Given how expensive they are, you'd have thought they'd make the design more durable-looking or used better materials. That said, I haven't seen the ET14000 or two-tray workforce in person, and maybe they work better than they look :)
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#66I haven't owned a printer in probably 10 years and I'm not particularly young (32). I get their usefulness in some aspects of business operations but I'm a bit at a loss as to why an individual would purchase one. What are the use cases now? The only two I can think of are printing photos, which I get but it seems better handled either through a photo printer or an outside service or for printing 'offical' documents…
Over the past few months:
* Printing tax forms (even if you do them electronically it is much easier to have a file folder of all your info should you get a query from the government) * Printing homework or practice questions for my kids * Printing registration forms for the many places that aren't computerized * Faxed identification for various purposes * Faxed contracts for real estate * Scanned documents and identification for people that accept them over email * Scanned expenses
And that's not including my wife's use of it, who is a student and will regularly print off stuff to mark up by hand.
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#67I bought a Brother (HL-2170W) laser printer about 8 years ago, and it's still using its original cartridge. I do very little printing, but I do need it from time to time. During my last move, I accidentally tipped a book shelf on top of it. Cracked a few plastic bits, and bent some metal things inside it. I unbent the metal, and glued the plastic, and the thing still prints like it's new out of the box. I've talked m…
I have the same printer and I too have had no issues in 5+ years of use.
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#68I haven't owned a printer in probably 10 years and I'm not particularly young (32). I get their usefulness in some aspects of business operations but I'm a bit at a loss as to why an individual would purchase one. What are the use cases now? The only two I can think of are printing photos, which I get but it seems better handled either through a photo printer or an outside service or for printing 'offical' documents…
There are a few.
Tickets. Boarding Passes. Government forms that cannot be filed electronically. Carrying information you need where you don't want to reply on a phone whose battery could run out.
To read something in a focused way, with no internet to distract you.
I printed out a plane ticket today to fly in a country where waving your phone with the same ticket is apparently not satisfactory.
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#69With all of the hype and excitement for 3d printers, I always have the many failings of 2d printers itching at the back of my brain...
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know why people still bother with inkjets. It's like the companies are actively punishing you for buying these models of printers. If they are necessary for work, then MAYBE. But even then, if you're buying commercial hardware you're not dealing with this junk either. It also used to be that laser was incredibly expensive in comparison, now they're about the same price if you compare color inkjet to black and…
Lasers do have disadvantages – mainly their excessively high power consumption and their air pollution. Modern gel inks don't dry out in my experience, and make for very efficient printers that are much less maintenance intensive than lasers. And ink is cheaper than toner unless you print several hundreds of pages a month.
I'm sure I'm having a brain fart and missing something obvious, but why are inkjets cheaper than laser only at lower monthly page volumes?
Seems that your savings would just continue to increase the more you print. Or is there something else that affects the inkjet price per page at higher volumes?