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Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by ktRolster »

slg wrote: post #20

There are a variety of different forms of Dyslexia, so I can't speak for everyone. However, this doesn't resemble my own personal form. I would be curious to hear from other Dyslexics to see if this is anything close to their experience. The way I usually explain my variety is that my brain is trying to read faster than it can physically. I have no problem reading words (which seems to be what this code is focusing o…

  >  the problem is my brain is already moving forward and 
  >  the word I read is often not the word written on the page.
Either I have dyslexia, or that's how everyone's brain works. Sometimes when I'm reading out loud, I'll completely make up words that are not on the page.

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Post by Swizec »

slg wrote: post #20

There are a variety of different forms of Dyslexia, so I can't speak for everyone. However, this doesn't resemble my own personal form. I would be curious to hear from other Dyslexics to see if this is anything close to their experience. The way I usually explain my variety is that my brain is trying to read faster than it can physically. I have no problem reading words (which seems to be what this code is focusing o…

I'm not dyslexic, but I can relate to this. To me it usually happens when I'm talking, which is why I prefer typing since I can type at the same speed I'm thinking.

Have you tried speed reading techniques? They're designed to get around your urge to "vocalize" words in your mind as you read. This enables you to read at the speed your brain can process at.

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Post by Someone1234 »

adam12 wrote: post #45
oib wrote: post #26

Ugh, as someone with dyslexia, it's nothing visual, so trying to visualize being dyslexic is an exercise in futility. You know those "drunk" googles that distort your view? They certainly make it harder to walk, but they in no way make you feel drunk... Try explaining someone what it feels like being on LSD... you can't. Telling people that letters jump around is an easy way to dismiss people whit out having to do a…

Thanks for your comment. I have suspected that I have dyslexia for years, but now I am almost certain that I do. Interesting article: http://www.iflscience.com/brain/font-simulates-dyslexia-make... “For most people with dyslexia, the letters and numbers do not jump around on the page and the colours remain the same,” Britton said. “It is simply a breakdown in communication between the eye and the brain. You can see t…

That quote is a great description.

A lot of people think dyslexia is this fixed level of degradation but in reality a lot of things impact how dyslexic the same individual is including: tiredness, stress, fitness, age, concentration, and so on.

Although those things don't impact dyslexia in the obvious way (less stress == less dyslexia, less tiredness = less dyslexia) for example I suffer less from dyslexia when I am tireder/sleepier. Why? Maybe the part of my brain that causes dyslexia is more active when I am not fatigued. I don't really know.

But every time people talk about words literally jumping around on a page or strange colour changing because of dyslexia I honestly wonder if we have the same condition at all...

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Post by SCAQTony »

oib wrote: post #26

Ugh, as someone with dyslexia, it's nothing visual, so trying to visualize being dyslexic is an exercise in futility. You know those "drunk" googles that distort your view? They certainly make it harder to walk, but they in no way make you feel drunk... Try explaining someone what it feels like being on LSD... you can't. Telling people that letters jump around is an easy way to dismiss people whit out having to do a…

It came close... For me individual lines do this not the paragraph at large but sometimes I accidentally jump ahead.

There is a font called "Dyslexie" which is the only typeface I would use if I had to read a speech aloud.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexie

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Post by slg »

amadeusw wrote: post #58
Arzh wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone also with dyslexia, I thought it was pretty good. Yes it is not that extreme but that is the point of the piece I think.

Exactly. I think most of us see this project as a hyperbole. Dyslexia does not make you literally see scrambled letters, but make it similarly difficult to read. I found the long and uncommon ones like "phonetical" especially difficult. To people with dyslexia: are shorter and more common words easier to comprehend, just like in this piece?

For me the shorter words are actually harder because they are more similar to other words and they often don't attract focus in a sentence so your mind spends less time on them.

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Post by geon »

mgrennan wrote: post #28
matthewcford wrote: post #11

Having dyslexia, I would say this is rather extreme, I can't speak for everyone but reading isn't like this for most dyslexics. Usually it is a pair of letters being swapped, or numbers order reversed. They don't jump around/change randomly, you just misread it. http://dyslexia.learninginfo.org/symptoms.htm The new font for dyslexics also goes into this some more: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-font-he…

Dysgraphia is a part related to dyslexia. This can be a problem, b d p q 9, W M N, O 0 o e, E 5 S R B and more.

I was experimenting with character substitution too, but it won't work well with a variable width font, since the words at the end of the page moves a lot.

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Post by okc »

oib wrote: post #26

Ugh, as someone with dyslexia, it's nothing visual, so trying to visualize being dyslexic is an exercise in futility. You know those "drunk" googles that distort your view? They certainly make it harder to walk, but they in no way make you feel drunk... Try explaining someone what it feels like being on LSD... you can't. Telling people that letters jump around is an easy way to dismiss people whit out having to do a…

The idea of dyslexia that has always resonated with me, is that the brain is thinking in more than one dimension, or direction, at parallel times. Thinking dynamically, when being asked to do a linear task. I don't know where I heard this, but I have taken a little poetic license with the idea.

In the example of mixing letters up,a it would be more about seeing potential possibilities and not just selecting one.

I'm not proposing this as a model for all, but it certainly makes sense with how dyslexia isn't necessarily negative.

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Post by self_taught_ »

matthewcford wrote: post #11

Having dyslexia, I would say this is rather extreme, I can't speak for everyone but reading isn't like this for most dyslexics. Usually it is a pair of letters being swapped, or numbers order reversed. They don't jump around/change randomly, you just misread it. http://dyslexia.learninginfo.org/symptoms.htm The new font for dyslexics also goes into this some more: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-font-he…

That was crazy, I was able to read the article in the dyslexic font way faster than before.

I wish I could change all fonts to be this.

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Post by nostromo »

adam12 wrote: post #45
oib wrote: post #26

Ugh, as someone with dyslexia, it's nothing visual, so trying to visualize being dyslexic is an exercise in futility. You know those "drunk" googles that distort your view? They certainly make it harder to walk, but they in no way make you feel drunk... Try explaining someone what it feels like being on LSD... you can't. Telling people that letters jump around is an easy way to dismiss people whit out having to do a…

Thanks for your comment. I have suspected that I have dyslexia for years, but now I am almost certain that I do. Interesting article: http://www.iflscience.com/brain/font-simulates-dyslexia-make... “For most people with dyslexia, the letters and numbers do not jump around on the page and the colours remain the same,” Britton said. “It is simply a breakdown in communication between the eye and the brain. You can see t…

Yes, it's a subconscious affliction. Reading is slower and more taxing because your conscious brain has to be more involved.

For me the biggest challenge was b and d and p and q. When I was young, I would have to stop and consciously think about which letter was in front of me, when most kids around me immediately knew the right letter without any conscious thought.

The closest thing I've experienced to dyslexia is learning to read a foreign language with different glyphs. You go very slow and you have to really consciously think about what the symbols mean.

Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by geon »

SamBam wrote: post #30
Alex3917 wrote: post #13

I actually don't have much difficulty reading this, with the exception of a couple technical terms I wasn't familiar with. There was a similar thread a while back with a couple different fun examples, albeit designed to show how we read based on the shape of words (not spelling) rather than to demonstrate dyslexia: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=222459

You didn't have trouble reading it, because the author deliberately kept the first and last letters the same, and referred to Typoglycemia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typoglycemia , which has shown that you can (often, not always) mix up the internal letters and the works are still very legible. In doing this, I think the creator was specifically trying to make a Typoglycemia simulator, not a dyslexia simulator, s…

You can't really simulate Typoglycemia, since it isn't a condution, but a phenomenon.

But yeah. I wanted the effect to be somewhat distracting while still readable.

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