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Artists Covertly Scan Bust of Nefertiti and Release the Data for Free Online

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Re: Artists Covertly Scan Bust of Nefertiti and Release the Data for Free Online

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Post by ascorbic »

hayksaakian wrote: post #7
aresant wrote: post #5

I anticipate all sorts of crazy digital-rights management battles ahead for 3D objects like this - including art - but even more on likenesses / people / etc. Roughly a year ago I bought a structure scanner (1) for my iPad, scanned in friends, imported to unity and let them walk around themselves in the Oculus DK2. That was a very cool experience but an unexpected result was how many people asked me to delete the sca…

i think it's a generational thing. if you asked people 10 years before facebook to post pictures of themselves voluntarily all over the web, they would have the same response. the same will happen for 3d likenesses once it's trivial to post '3d selfies' on '3d instagram'.

People have been posting selfies ever since digital cameras have been available. Before Facebook they were on Livejournal and MySpace, and before that Geocities. There were just fewer because phone cameras were really shitty ten years ago.

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Post by viraptor »

mchahn wrote: post #57
dogma1138 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And? if you are looking at a good reproduction of the Mona Lisa do you feel anything less? There are tons of items that cannot be displayed to the public in fear of damaging them this can help to create a more accurate replica that can be easily displayed at a fraction of the cost. Just so you know museums have been displaying replicas for decades (if not longer) as many items were too fragile to display, many "origi…

> that cannot be displayed to the public in fear of damaging them I saw the Mona Lisa at the Louvre on vacation. It was being displayed on a wall like any other painting but it had a big sign, saying no flash photography. There was a large crowd in front and there was a constant flashing from cameras. I wanted to yell at everyone but it wouldn't have done any good.

Was that the original? I remember seeing Lady with an Ermine in Poland - really thick glass in front, dark room, people reminding you about the flash before going in. And I imagine that's not even remotely as important painting.

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Post by justincormack »

roywiggins wrote: post #14
iNerdier wrote: post #2

This is one of the more interesting things to come out of the overlap of technology and artworks to my mind. If we continue to have arrangements like that of the Elgin Marbles in London some kind of compromise where a good quality facsimile like this can be created for relatively cheap and displayed to the public then at least we get to have a freer access to our shared heritage. It's a crying shame they had to resor…

Probably portable 3D scanners makes it easier, but facsimile art isn't new at all. The V&A museum in London has a huge set of Victorian-era plaster casts of EVERYTHING: http://www.vam.ac.uk/page/c/cast-courts/ There's a whole industry of manuscript fascimiles: http://www.facsimilefinder.com/

Yes, was about to say the same, the Convention for Promoting Universal Reproductions of Works of Art was in 1867. 3D printing of sculptures is hardly new...

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Post by ginko »

Keyframe wrote: post #9

I expected this to be a thing 15+ years ago, starting with this at Stanford: http://graphics.stanford.edu/projects/mich/

You can't download their David dataset though. Which is a crying shame since artworks like this should belong to all mankind.

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Post by ianamartin »

This pleases me to no end. Sort of reminds me that an imperfect representation of Bach's Brandenbourg II is floating around on Voyager, encoded on a golden disc.

As a professional violinist for almost 30 years, and an expert in early music, it makes me a little sad that it's that recording that got sent out.

On the other hand, it thrills me that 4.5 or so billions of years from now, long after we are extinct, and when the sun goes dark, Bach will still be out there in the cosmos.

Not a perfect Bach. Not the best representation. Not at all what he would have imagined. But a representation.

Completely off-topic and re: Fermi's paradox.

I think that the voyager mission was a unique thing. It was only possible for a brief window of time in which we had the technology to do it, and the social willingness to do it. It was a short period of time.

Think about the social and political implications a mission like Voyager would have today. If you tried to do that today, people and countries and orgs from all over the world would argue for inclusion. I think there's a Simpsons episode about this.

My point about Fermi is that I'm suggesting that there was only about a 10 year window in which Voyager was both technically possible and socially acceptable. In the time scale of intelligent life, that's a very narrow window.

I sometimes wonder if there isn't a lot of intelligent life out there whose civilizations simply missed that window. In other words, a lot of life that would very much like to say hello, but can't agree on how to do it.

Sorry for the tangent.

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Post by Keyframe »

ginko wrote: post #67
Keyframe wrote: post #9

I expected this to be a thing 15+ years ago, starting with this at Stanford: http://graphics.stanford.edu/projects/mich/

You can't download their David dataset though. Which is a crying shame since artworks like this should belong to all mankind.

Oh, but you can: http://graphics.stanford.edu/dmich-archive/

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Post by sp332 »

ekianjo wrote: post #63

Isnt art from antiquity devoid of all copyright anyway? Why arent such scans completely lawful in the first place especially when they belong to the public?

Copyright, yes. But the museum is allowed to hide the object and their scans if they want to. If there is legal action against the scholars, it would be for damages (probably lost revenue) and not for copyright infringement.
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