Yo dawg, I heard you like web 2.0 so I put a web 2.0 in your web 2.0 so you can web 2.0 while you web 2.0.
Google Buzz
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Re: Google Buzz
#62It's not rolled out to everyone in Gmail, but mobile should work ( http://m.google.com/app/buzz ) for anyone with an iPhone or Android device. [edit] I missed an 's' in the URL. Android doesn't seem to like that URL, but the iPhone does.
This 404s in my Droid; http://buzz.google.com works, though.
Re: Google Buzz
#63Is Google becoming the new Microsoft? Not in the evil sense, but in the lame me-too products that rely on brute force (their huge install base) and no innovation to hopelessly try to compete sense.
It's not enough to copy a product to get the anger. You have to achieve dominance and then stagnate. Take Google Reader for example. When it started out, Bloglines was the superior web reader. Over time and through innumerable upgrades, GR developed a fundamentally superior product. Also, Google's thing has literally always been to launch half baked ideas, get reaction, and then iterate. All the while never charging…
GR didn't incrementally get better, Paul B. joined the team and re-started it from scratch applying lessons learned and principles from GMail.
Re: Google Buzz
#64Re: Google Buzz
#65I think that it's a great move. GMAIL has 150MM users a month, you can bootstrap anything with that userbase. and Wave?
That's what I never got about Wave - that they didn't somehow integrate it with Gmail, not even loosely. After I got a Wave account I invited a couple of friends, and they checked it out - signing in once, and forgetting about the whole service after that. So I tried including them in a few "waves", but there was no option to get email notifications of new waves! Of course they never returned, and the next time 'roun…
I've been thinking that they should initially roll WAVE out as plumbing.
They could transplant GMail/Buzz/Google Talk/etc to run on Wave without forcing people to learn the interface up-front. Users would be building up content 'in' Wave and Google would be slowly integrating the features that Wave makes easy.
Then the Wave interface (the biggest stumbling block for most) can be introduced as an optional power-user interface; but wholly compatible in case people want to bounce back and forth as they ease in and backward-compatible with people who aren't ready to take the plunge. (fully backward compatible, in the case of other GMail users)
I just don't think Wave is there yet.
Re: Google Buzz
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most true open source software doesn't have the launch pad of GMail either. Besides that, the fact that the open source community clones software and gives it away is just as sad. Open sourcing something doesn't make it pure. If that were enough to be "evil" then everything would be evil. I don't care if Google is evil. They're a large corporation trying to make money like any other. They don't care about us. * Nobod…
Was Google Maps a clone? Google Mail a clone? Wave a clone? AppEngine a clone? The Chrome browser a clone? Android a clone? GWT a clone? What are you talking about?
Yes to everything except for Wave and AppEngine.
I'm pretty sure Google didn't invent web based maps, e-mail and the web browser. Wave and AppEngine were good but useless...
Re: Google Buzz
#67One thing that just struck me, is that google/gmail will not be banned from workplace computers as often as fb/twitter have been. This alone will be a significant advantage.
Re: Google Buzz
#68Doesn't add a Buzz option to my gmail. Working for anyone else?
Try accessing it from Android/iPhone (buzz.google.com). I can access it on my phone even though it isn't popping up in Gmail yet.
When I go to buzz.google.com from an Android phone I get redirected to a Mobile Help page listing the supported phones. Is this happening to anyone else?
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It looks like only Android 2.0+ is supported and the HTC Hero still runs 1.5. Lame.
Re: Google Buzz
#69I'm more excited to use this than Wave. =/
Re: Google Buzz
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Argh what is the point of comments like these? It is totally drowning out any useful discussion about the actual merits or demerits of the product. The iPod was a lame "me-too" product, eh?
Actually the same can be said of your answer :-/ That the iPod was a me-too product is an interesting comment, because it reminds us to look at what was special about it (beautiful design, tight integration with the desktop and media store). What's special about Buzz?
That last sentence is the right question. If you think about _that_ for a few minutes instead, you will certainly come up with some arguments (positive or negative); but just saying "is G the next M?" is negative-content, really.