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Amazon Lumberyard: free AAA game engine with Oculus and AWS integration

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Re: Amazon Lumberyard: free AAA game engine with Oculus and AWS integration

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Post by thenomad »

cies wrote: post #15
thenomad wrote: post #3

Digging into the details, it seems this is largely a fork or adaption of the CryEngine, with all the advantages and disadvantages that brings. As I said about Autodesk's offering, Stingray, I think that even a giant like Amazon is going to have an uphill battle bringing a new game engine into mass use. Having been testing game engines just this week, I'm reminded just how much of an ecosystem has built up around Unit…

> Another fully open-source 3D engine is no bad thing. Small correction; it is not open source: https://aws.amazon.com/lumberyard/faq/#Licensing

Good point.

Re: Amazon Lumberyard: free AAA game engine with Oculus and AWS integration

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Post by douche »

keyle wrote: post #14
thenomad wrote: post #3

Digging into the details, it seems this is largely a fork or adaption of the CryEngine, with all the advantages and disadvantages that brings. As I said about Autodesk's offering, Stingray, I think that even a giant like Amazon is going to have an uphill battle bringing a new game engine into mass use. Having been testing game engines just this week, I'm reminded just how much of an ecosystem has built up around Unit…

Shame about the 3D format supports. :(

Seems like they could throw in Assimp[1] and have most of the common formats out-of-the-box.

[1] https://github.com/assimp/assimp

Re: Amazon Lumberyard: free AAA game engine with Oculus and AWS integration

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Post by icebraining »

Tinyyy wrote: post #45
cies wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Another fully open-source 3D engine is no bad thing. Small correction; it is not open source: https://aws.amazon.com/lumberyard/faq/#Licensing

I think your definition of open source is flawed.

Blame the Open Source Initiative :)

Re: Amazon Lumberyard: free AAA game engine with Oculus and AWS integration

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Post by clebio »

Minor nit: the link doesn't once mention Oculus. Only on the FAQ page is that mentioned. http://aws.amazon.com/lumberyard/faq/

I mean, the closest thing to a title for this linked page would be the subheading:

> Amazon Lumberyard is a free AAA game engine deeply integrated with AWS and Twitch – with full source.

Re: Amazon Lumberyard: free AAA game engine with Oculus and AWS integration

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

dragonwriter wrote: post #55
beefsack wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is open source, but it's not FOSS.

That's a contradiction "FOSS" encompasses the software which meets the (nearly-equivalent in practical application) FSF Free Software definition and/or OSI Open Source definition. If it is open source software (which this is emphatically and expressly not), it is FOSS.

Software can be commercial and open source meaning you can read the code but you have to purchase a licence to make copies and/or use it - that's open source but not Free[-Gratis] Open Source Software (FOSS).

Re: Amazon Lumberyard: free AAA game engine with Oculus and AWS integration

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Post by lmm »

bobajeff wrote: post #58
lmm wrote: post #36

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Five years ago using C# for a serious game would get you laughed at. But every day the balance shifts: computers get faster, but developers don't get smarter, so a language that sacrifices performance for ease of development becomes a better choice. If you're looking to the future I'd recommend sticking with C#.

"computers get faster" Not everywhere. Phones, tablets and older or low end laptops are very popular.

Phones are really quite fast these days. C# is a perfectly reasonable choice for a phone game.

Re: Amazon Lumberyard: free AAA game engine with Oculus and AWS integration

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Post by jo909 »

Tepix wrote: post #40
eterm wrote: post #16

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It also contains built in obselesence: 57.6 Registration; Release. Before distributing your Lumberyard Project to End Users, you must register it at aws.amazon.com/lumberyard/registration. You must obtain our prior written consent if the initial public or commercial release of your Lumberyard Project is based on a version of the Lumberyard Materials more than 5 years old.

That means if you keep releasing updates for a project for 5 years, you need renewed permission from them, right?

Updates would clearly not be an "initial public or commercial release of your Lumberyard Project".

It's about the first version, you just can't sit on your project forever and still use an old version of the engine when you finally go public. I see no harm in that clause.

Re: Amazon Lumberyard: free AAA game engine with Oculus and AWS integration

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Post by dragonwriter »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #65
dragonwriter wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a contradiction "FOSS" encompasses the software which meets the (nearly-equivalent in practical application) FSF Free Software definition and/or OSI Open Source definition. If it is open source software (which this is emphatically and expressly not), it is FOSS.

Software can be commercial and open source meaning you can read the code but you have to purchase a licence to make copies and/or use it - that's open source but not Free[-Gratis] Open Source Software (FOSS).

No, that's "source available" or "shared source", not " open source".

Re: Amazon Lumberyard: free AAA game engine with Oculus and AWS integration

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Post by wildpeaks »

markatkinson wrote: post #24
keyle wrote: post #14

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Shame about the 3D format supports. :(

Yea, which is a shame for them, as lots of the smaller shops starting out and actually deciding which game engine to use are likely to be starting with something like Blender. I don't even think 3DS Max exists anymore? Isn't it just Maya now?

3dsmax definitely still exist, although I wish Autodesk learned cloud pricing from Adobe because 240€ a month just for 3dsmax is way way too much, especially compared with Creative Cloud which is barely 60€ yet contains almost all their softwares.

Re: Amazon Lumberyard: free AAA game engine with Oculus and AWS integration

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Post by mikeash »

Tinyyy wrote: post #45
cies wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Another fully open-source 3D engine is no bad thing. Small correction; it is not open source: https://aws.amazon.com/lumberyard/faq/#Licensing

I think your definition of open source is flawed.

"Open source" generally means not only can you get the source code, but you can use it freely and make your modifications available to others. There's some wiggle room for exactly what qualifies there, but Amazon's terms are pretty far from any gray areas.
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