And yet it still doesn't use HTTPS. Wasn't it supposed to get it by the end of last year?
We had to shift a few priorities last year, but we are working to get HTTPS support on our video player. So, stay tuned!
Flash-Free Video in 2016
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Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016
#62I know everybody here hates flash (for excellent reasons!) and is happy to see it die. But, as a user who doesn't work in tech, I really miss the ability to enforce click-to-play loading of videos. From my pseudo-outsider perspective, the switch to HTML5 has been really frustrating. I happen to hang out around these parts so I understand the reasons for it, but if I didn't it would probably make me mad. It would feel…
We're only happy to see it die because it was never well cared for. Flash was much heavier and much, much more insecure than it needed to be with Adobe-level money behind it. They were terribly poor stewards of the technology. I mean no offense to anyone that was on the Flash team, I am making a (flawed?) presumption that it probably didn't feel great inside the company either.
Others may tell you I'm wrong - it's about standards and open technologies and whatnot. But personally (and for people I work with that I can speak for) Flash failed because Abode failed Flash.
Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016
#63I know everybody here hates flash (for excellent reasons!) and is happy to see it die. But, as a user who doesn't work in tech, I really miss the ability to enforce click-to-play loading of videos. From my pseudo-outsider perspective, the switch to HTML5 has been really frustrating. I happen to hang out around these parts so I understand the reasons for it, but if I didn't it would probably make me mad. It would feel…
Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016
#64Has anyone here that is excited about HTML5 video (and Flash being dead) ever written an enterprise video player? It's a total nightmare in HTML5. You have little control over playback and insight into video events. Meeting business requirements (that Flash fulfilled) with HTML5 video ranges from hard to not possible.
> You have little control over playback
This sounds user-friendly.
> insight into video events
If "insight" means "tracking", this sounds very user-friendly.
Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016
#65I know everybody here hates flash (for excellent reasons!) and is happy to see it die. But, as a user who doesn't work in tech, I really miss the ability to enforce click-to-play loading of videos. From my pseudo-outsider perspective, the switch to HTML5 has been really frustrating. I happen to hang out around these parts so I understand the reasons for it, but if I didn't it would probably make me mad. It would feel…
Firefox has the setting "media.autoplay.enabled" for this. It mostly works, although some websites (notably Youtube) assume that autoplay succeeded and so the player acts slightly wonky, e.g. the played/paused state is backwards.
I would be interested to know of any extensions that do similar and work better.
Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016
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There's Beam [0], it's quite new but I've been quite amazed by their work. They invented some sort of own protocol built on web standards [1]. Also, their streams are actually live (i.e. minimal delay), it's all HTTPS and a lot of their work is open source. [2] I hope this is going to be a thing. 0: https://beam.pro 1: http://forums.beam.pro/topic/168/where-we-re-at-with-html5-v... 2: https://github.com/watchbeam
Thanks for the link. Looks neat, but sadly doesn't seem to be working in Firefox for Linux. Don't have time to dig into why right now (missing MSE? some codec I don't have?)
It wasn't working for me when I `had media.fragmented-mp4.*.enabled` turned on. Started working again after turning it off.
Other than that, I think they're A/B testing some experimental features. Perhaps try a few different streams and see if those work?
Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016
#68Let's see when Facebook converts. For some reason they love to serve Flash based SOLELY on user agent. So you have a chrome fork without flash? Here, watch this flash. Oh, and this gif is now flash as well. I can't quite figure out why.. but I would vote for incompetence. Can't see any business motivation for doing that.
They probably just have a whitelist of user agents that they have verified HTML5 video to work well on... If it's anything they don't recognize they serve flash.
I'm not sure if this is what you're referring to, but they also don't allow you to embed a custom HTML5 player, just Flash. So, if you're a content producer or platform that wants to use your own player, your only option is to embed a SWF.
The irony is that I'm pretty sure the reasoning has security in there somewhere.
Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016
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I'm 99% sure they introduced a non-flash service in beta recently. Edit: Yeah, you can opt-in with a button on the right column here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/html5
Only for iPlayer, not for example on BBC News video clips, and not even 100% of iPlayer content yet. Still progress I suppose.
True. Hopefully this is a test and once they get it working they'll roll it out across the BBC sites.
Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016
#70Has anyone here that is excited about HTML5 video (and Flash being dead) ever written an enterprise video player? It's a total nightmare in HTML5. You have little control over playback and insight into video events. Meeting business requirements (that Flash fulfilled) with HTML5 video ranges from hard to not possible.
This might help https://mozillalabs.com/en-US/Popcorn/
FWIW, I'm pretty sure Popcorn has been abandoned, which is a shame.