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What business model is Signal based on?
From their description in the iTunes store: 'Pay Nothing - Signal is supported by a team of dedicated developers, community donations, and grants. There are no advertisements, and it doesn't cost anything to use.'
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What business model is Signal based on?
Donations, it seems http://support.whispersystems.org/hc/en-us/articles/21294015...
You donate bitcoins to a pool. Everyone can commit to their repository. Every merged pull request gets 2% of the pool. Currently you get 26.98 USD per merged pull request.
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So I know internal figures from facebook regarding whatsapp. A large majority of our users are never actually charged a subscription fee. The app is facing stiff competition in some markets against apps that don't have any subscription model. Even though whatsapp won't actually charge those users the presence of a subscription feature seems to be causing a growth hinderance. Not sure how it will compete in these mark…
> until recently whatsapp/facebook couldn't actually read any message sent by users to other users/groups because of the end to end encryption in place Does that mean they can now?
That statement is based on my latest information, which is a few months dated, that they couldn't. Things could have changed but it's unlikely.
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From their description in the iTunes store: 'Pay Nothing - Signal is supported by a team of dedicated developers, community donations, and grants. There are no advertisements, and it doesn't cost anything to use.'
So it's a project, not a business.
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What have you read about the questionable cryptography in Telegram that you found unpersuasive? That's a better starting point, because the formulation you use here is often used on message boards to bait people into doing research work that is then dismissed. Your comment includes an assertion that there aren't substantial complaints about Telegram's security (there very much are, BTW). I think the onus is on you to…
You're absolutely right if my goal was to get people to post these papers, which reading back can easily be how it is interpreted. My point was more that, as a 'consumer' of this product without any background knowledge, their contests seem extremely convincing to the point of being slightly ridiculous. A 300,000 dollar bounty, while participants get quite some more access than they would normally get while attacking…
https://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram/archives/1998/1215.html...
Signal is also free and based on a business model that doesn't require eventually being able to interfere with your privacy and mine your data. https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/signal-private-messenger/id8... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.thoughtcri...
I am a happy signal user BTW, but I can't see how they are making money off me.
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If that's how you see it, I'm very curious to know how you would define the linux kernel.
I was not aware that the Linux kernel required a server infrastructure to be running to work on my device.
I, for one, shudder at the thought of Facebook getting my banking messages. Telegram has been a great alternative although it's not perfect.